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#1 Trend-Signals

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 09:44 PM

Not sure whether the data comes from, but it is clearly we are brainwashed to Depression.

http://www.traders-t...showtopic=75283


ALL BULLS are hiding out in CLOSET.

Now, there is ONE bull out there.

It is EXTREMELY depressing... depressing to hear "subprime crisis" drama day after day....

Just sick of the bad news

Any cheerful person would be going into massive DEPRESSION!


The "subprime crisis" drama is hitting news everyday. Normal person would be brainwashed that we are going into depression even if we could have avoided it.

Everyone is looking into the Fed and the Gov to manage the housing fall out crisis.

The prolonging speculative news media is killing public sentiment making the situation worse.

Edited by Trend-Signals, 23 August 2007 - 09:52 PM.

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#2 redfoliage2

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 09:59 PM

That's what the media do everyday: brainwashing, not only on subprime topics. The mass got their brainwashed without knowing. :lol:

Edited by redfoliage2, 23 August 2007 - 10:00 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:02 PM

So, if the Gov and the Fed want to kill public sentiment and go into depressing/recession; keep the subprime crisis drama going :bear: ; otherwise,

Market goes higher.

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#4 James Quillian

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:29 PM

Not sure whether the data comes from, but it is clearly we are brainwashed to Depression.

http://www.traders-t...showtopic=75283


ALL BULLS are hiding out in CLOSET.

Now, there is ONE bull out there.

It is EXTREMELY depressing... depressing to hear "subprime crisis" drama day after day....

Just sick of the bad news

Any cheerful person would be going into massive DEPRESSION!


The "subprime crisis" drama is hitting news everyday. Normal person would be brainwashed that we are going into depression even if we could have avoided it.

Everyone is looking into the Fed and the Gov to manage the housing fall out crisis.

The prolonging speculative news media is killing public sentiment making the situation worse.


There is are some problems with predicting recessions and the lifespan of recoveries.
The willingness to go through small recessions has a way of preventing large ones. We have opted to prevent even the smallest of downturns.
Economists never understand how economic policies that prolong recoveries change incentives and end up changing the structure of the economy when that is not what is intended.
There is no good answer as to how long a recovery can be maintained with expansionary monetary and fiscal policies.
I think we are at the point now where tax rates are low enough so that a supply side tax cut from this leval would not have the intended effect off increasing tax revenue while contributing to an expansion at the same time. Productivity is leveling off world wide so that agressive monitary and/or fiscal policies would both be inflationary. Countries around the world have turned to bubble economics as a way of boosting consumer sending from borrowing against rising asset pricces. When asset prices finally stop rising, there will be a recession and probably a large one.

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:36 PM

There is are some problems with predicting recessions and the lifespan of recoveries.
The willingness to go through small recessions has a way of preventing large ones. We have opted to prevent even the smallest of downturns.
Economists never understand how economic policies that prolong recoveries change incentives and end up changing the structure of the economy when that is not what is intended.
There is no good answer as to how long a recovery can be maintained with expansionary monetary and fiscal policies.
I think we are at the point now where tax rates are low enough so that a supply side tax cut from this leval would not have the intended effect off increasing tax revenue while contributing to an expansion at the same time. Productivity is leveling off world wide so that agressive monitary and/or fiscal policies would both be inflationary. Countries around the world have turned to bubble economics as a way of boosting consumer sending from borrowing against rising asset pricces. When asset prices finally stop rising, there will be a recession and probably a large one.



The timing is everything. Right now, it is too speculative and pessimistic, only the blow off to upside in financial market will negate extreme bearish publicized sentiment.

When extremely bearish sentiment is publicized by media, "Inflation" is not a problem, it is "Recession".

Of course, economic cycle is inevitable; however, we are in the best global economic cycle. With the right monetary policy handling the bad risk management by subprime takers and other fancy financing, we will not see severe economic down turn.

Rate cut is a good one until the subprime drama is stopped and becomes an old news.

Breaking out new high in financial market is another cure.

after all, it is about all about money circulation.

Edited by Trend-Signals, 23 August 2007 - 10:42 PM.

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#6 James Quillian

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:47 PM

Rate cut is a good one until the subprime drama is stopped and becomes an old news.


It might work. The subprime drama is getting a lot of press but I am not convinced that it is the driving issue. I think it is more abstract than that.
I think a rate cut might be taken as a sign that asset prices are going to get support. For a bear that is worth worring about.
Its like animals that are at the trough. They start getting excited when they see the farmer coming with hay in the pickup.

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:50 PM

$SSEC is having a big party without us.

$SSEC 5,112.87 11:17PM ET Up 80.38 (1.60%)

http://www.stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$SSEC&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&i=p02439948996&a=66381250&r=667.png
http://www.stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$SSEC&p=M&st=1991-01-07&i=p41832746448&a=103246091&r=37.png


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#8 thespookyone

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 11:14 PM

Maybe if the media just ignored the subprime crisis-it would go away? :unsure:

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 06:13 AM

haha great comment and IMO it is actually spot on

#10 Trend-Signals

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 06:58 AM

Maybe if the media just ignored the subprime crisis-it would go away? :unsure:



"Subprime crisis drama" is making things worse. I thought that you are good at writing. :lol: Therefore reading comprehension.
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