) look accurate so far. His 7th of August missed the high only by three bars as the high came on the 2nd. Don' t know if I' m correct but he seems to have the first week of september for another turn and as the markets are bouncing it shoud be another high..............Next turn dates seem to be 10/07 and 11/04 if I understood correctly. I bet 11/04 is the bottom of the whole drop underway that the bulls here are taking for a buy the dip opportunity. Someone please correct me if I was wrong with Armstrong's turn dates.
Armstrong's turn dates
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:39 AM
since I began watching them (late July 2013 ) look accurate so far. His 7th of August missed the high only by three bars as the high came on the 2nd. Don' t know if I' m correct but he seems to have the first week of september for another turn and as the markets are bouncing it shoud be another high..............Next turn dates seem to be 10/07 and 11/04 if I understood correctly. I bet 11/04 is the bottom of the whole drop underway that the bulls here are taking for a buy the dip opportunity. Someone please correct me if I was wrong with Armstrong's turn dates.
) look accurate so far. His 7th of August missed the high only by three bars as the high came on the 2nd. Don' t know if I' m correct but he seems to have the first week of september for another turn and as the markets are bouncing it shoud be another high..............Next turn dates seem to be 10/07 and 11/04 if I understood correctly. I bet 11/04 is the bottom of the whole drop underway that the bulls here are taking for a buy the dip opportunity. Someone please correct me if I was wrong with Armstrong's turn dates.
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 12:18 PM
I looked back at all his other turn dates - none of them - not a single one reflected a top or bottom for the US stock market.
Just sayin.
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 01:10 PM
I looked back at all his other turn dates - none of them - not a single one reflected a top or bottom for the US stock market.
Just sayin.
look better fluid............7th of August he said..........well the sp began correcting on the 2nd of August which is just three daily bars before. You can' t pretend more accuracy than that I think. He has not got crystall balls to watch. Then turn dates means a change in direction not top or bottom
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 01:28 PM
I looked back at all his other turn dates - none of them - not a single one reflected a top or bottom for the US stock market.
Just sayin.
look better fluid............7th of August he said..........well the sp began correcting on the 2nd of August which is just three daily bars before. You can' t pretend more accuracy than that I think. He has not got crystall balls to watch. Then turn dates means a change in direction not top or bottom
I have his original cycle going back to the early 80's and August 12th for the 2.15. Also if you go back and look at those dates on the 8.6 year cycle. It has uncanny accuracy for a change in business cycle as well as market tops and bottoms...
Remember it is a business confidence model .. more economics than market predicting
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 01:40 PM
I looked back at all his other turn dates - none of them - not a single one reflected a top or bottom for the US stock market.
Just sayin.
look better fluid............7th of August he said..........well the sp began correcting on the 2nd of August which is just three daily bars before. You can' t pretend more accuracy than that I think. He has not got crystall balls to watch. Then turn dates means a change in direction not top or bottom
My mistake the one in 2007 was correct. None of the others indicate a turn date for the US market (I know one was a turn for the Nikkei back in 1990)
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:10 PM
I looked back at all his other turn dates - none of them - not a single one reflected a top or bottom for the US stock market.
Just sayin.
look better fluid............7th of August he said..........well the sp began correcting on the 2nd of August which is just three daily bars before. You can' t pretend more accuracy than that I think. He has not got crystall balls to watch. Then turn dates means a change in direction not top or bottom
I have his original cycle going back to the early 80's and August 12th for the 2.15. Also if you go back and look at those dates on the 8.6 year cycle. It has uncanny accuracy for a change in business cycle as well as market tops and bottoms...
Remember it is a business confidence model .. more economics than market predicting
Hi Bernie, I am new to Armstrong' s work. I know he is well respected here and not just here so that I will watch him carefully from now on.
forever and only a V-E-N-E-T-K-E-N - langbard
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:29 PM
since I began watching them (late July 2013
Armstrong's "Economic Confidence" cycle is 8.6 years although he has talked about 1/4 and 1/8 of the cycle. In any case, I don't see how you are getting monthly targets. His model is not aimed at any specific market but is "global" (covers all domestic and foreign markets, including real estate, art, etc.) in nature. In a sense, that makes life easier as something is probably going on somewhere at any point in time, including some direct hits on major stock markets. You can find a picture of the cycle on the net and FWIW here is a list of Armstrong dates that I picked up in 2008 (not sure if leap year is properly taken into account) and a bit from one of his papers ("It's Just Time") that he wrote while in prison:
2002.850 = 2000-Nov-06 (Mon) = Major Low
2005.000 = 2005-Jan-01 (Sat) = High
2006.075 = 2006-Jan-28 (Sat) = Low
2007.150 = 2007-Feb-24 (Sat) = Major High
2008.225 = 2008-Mar-23 (Sun) = Low
2009.300 = 2009-Apr-20 (Mon) = High
2011.450 = 2011-Jun-14 (Tue) = Major Low
2013.600 = 2013-Aug-08 (Thu) = High
2014.675 = 2014-Sep-04 (Thu) = Low
2015.750 = 2015-Oct-01 (Thu) = Major High
2016.825 = 2016-Oct-28 (Fri) = Low
2017.900 = 2017-Nov-25 (Sat) = High
2020.050 = 2020-Jan-19 (Sun) = Major Low
2022.200 = 2022-Mar-15 (Tue) = High
2023.275 = 2023-Apr-11 (Tue) = Low
2024.350 = 2024-May-07 (Tue) = Major High
2025.425 = 2025-Jun-05 (Thu) = Low
2026.500 = 2026-Jul-02 (Thu) = High
2028.650 = 2028-Aug-25 (Fri) = Major Low
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 05:43 PM
since I began watching them (late July 2013
Armstrong's "Economic Confidence" cycle is 8.6 years although he has talked about 1/4 and 1/8 of the cycle. In any case, I don't see how you are getting monthly targets. His model is not aimed at any specific market but is "global" (covers all domestic and foreign markets, including real estate, art, etc.) in nature. In a sense, that makes life easier as something is probably going on somewhere at any point in time, including some direct hits on major stock markets. You can find a picture of the cycle on the net and FWIW here is a list of Armstrong dates that I picked up in 2008 (not sure if leap year is properly taken into account) and a bit from one of his papers ("It's Just Time") that he wrote while in prison:
2002.850 = 2000-Nov-06 (Mon) = Major Low
2005.000 = 2005-Jan-01 (Sat) = High
2006.075 = 2006-Jan-28 (Sat) = Low
2007.150 = 2007-Feb-24 (Sat) = Major High
2008.225 = 2008-Mar-23 (Sun) = Low
2009.300 = 2009-Apr-20 (Mon) = High
2011.450 = 2011-Jun-14 (Tue) = Major Low
2013.600 = 2013-Aug-08 (Thu) = High
2014.675 = 2014-Sep-04 (Thu) = Low
2015.750 = 2015-Oct-01 (Thu) = Major High
2016.825 = 2016-Oct-28 (Fri) = Low
2017.900 = 2017-Nov-25 (Sat) = High
2020.050 = 2020-Jan-19 (Sun) = Major Low
2022.200 = 2022-Mar-15 (Tue) = High
2023.275 = 2023-Apr-11 (Tue) = Low
2024.350 = 2024-May-07 (Tue) = Major High
2025.425 = 2025-Jun-05 (Thu) = Low
2026.500 = 2026-Jul-02 (Thu) = High
2028.650 = 2028-Aug-25 (Fri) = Major Low
armstrong......lindsay.....prechter.....fleckenstien....gross......nenner....neu
mann.....hussman......acampora....granville.....eliades......and wrong and wrong.......watch the sky.. there is only ONE lookiing for the epicenter of primary wave 3 up......666 ono....snort
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:18 PM
armstrong......lindsay.....prechter.....fleckenstien....gross......nenner....neu
mann.....hussman......acampora....granville.....eliades......and wrong and wrong.......watch the sky.. there is only ONE lookiing for the epicenter of primary wave 3 up......666 ono....snort
You've been singing the same tune through ups and downs for quite awhile. It's time for a new song:
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:33 PM
in hale exhale.......if you dont breath you die.....and so >it's time for a new song"<....lmao until everybody learns my song a new song isnt coming......and colion........what are the lyrics for the new song eh???? i havent heard you singing in years......so whats UR song?armstrong......lindsay.....prechter.....fleckenstien....gross......nenner....neu
mann.....hussman......acampora....granville.....eliades......and wrong and wrong.......watch the sky.. there is only ONE lookiing for the epicenter of primary wave 3 up......666 ono....snort
You've been singing the same tune through ups and downs for quite awhile. It's time for a new song:
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