Some Obamacare Myths
#1
Posted 15 May 2014 - 08:14 PM
(excerpts)
Among the many exaggerations and inaccuracies the law’s defenders are touting, five stand out.
• First, they say that premium rates are down.
• Second, supporters claim that Obamacare exceeded the enrollment target promulgated by the CBO.
• Third, liberals claim that insurers are happy, pointing to recent earnings reports f rom the biggest companies.
But this is a non sequitur.
• Fourth, liberals claim the law is “working.”
• Fifth, the left assures us Obamacare cannot be repealed.
The funny thing is that, for all the myth-making about Obamacare, the left still cannot sell it to the American
public. Even after a month of glowing coverage, polls from the major media outlets show that support for the
law is basically flat, stuck in the low 40s, well below the level of opposition.
#2
Posted 16 May 2014 - 01:11 PM
http://www.weeklysta...182.html?page=2
(excerpts)
Among the many exaggerations and inaccuracies the law’s defenders are touting, five stand out.
• First, they say that premium rates are down.
• Second, supporters claim that Obamacare exceeded the enrollment target promulgated by the CBO.
• Third, liberals claim that insurers are happy, pointing to recent earnings reports f rom the biggest companies.
But this is a non sequitur.
• Fourth, liberals claim the law is “working.”
• Fifth, the left assures us Obamacare cannot be repealed.
The funny thing is that, for all the myth-making about Obamacare, the left still cannot sell it to the American
public. Even after a month of glowing coverage, polls from the major media outlets show that support for the
law is basically flat, stuck in the low 40s, well below the level of opposition.
What absolute trash.
On the first point of rates being down, notice your link doesn't provide any data. Premium rates go up every year, with or without Obamacare, what's the trend line? How do the 2014 rates differ from those trend lines? I sure hope you don't do your market TA this way. \
Second point, enrollment targets, no one but deadenders are using the 15% any more because it doesn't include the end-of-enrollment surge of people that didn't eveh get the bill until April 30. Even the deadenders' 15% wetdream gives you over 6.9 million. Have the Krotch Bros sheeple become completely brain dead?
third, insures being happy is counter to the deadenders' meme that the thing is going to collapse. Sorry, not going to happen and that's not me telling you that; its the insurers' bottom lines telling you that.
Fourth, not working? I think you're confusing "not working" with "not working the way you want" - tens of millions of people disagree with you - they be the ones that now enjoy govt subsidized insurance - you know, like you do.
Fifth, it will be repeal when the GOP wins the Prez in 2016 - ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha - pretty funny.
If the world didn't suck, wouldn't we all just fly off?
#3
Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:39 PM
Edited by colion, 16 May 2014 - 07:47 PM.
#4
Posted 16 May 2014 - 10:04 PM
HOSPITAL ANNOUNCES MORE LAYOFFS DUE TO OBAMACARE...
“As the federal government and state payment systems continue to ratchet down on what they pay us and our costs go up, we have to look for opportunities to create cost efficiencies,”
I can hardly wait for the death panels like the government has for veterans.
They seem to get a bonus for each patient not treated.
This will be just wonderful.
Government accused of hiding long hospital waiting lists...
DAMAGE CONTROL: VA forces retiring official to resign...
VETERANS SCANDAL RISKS ENGULFING OBAMA
Edited by Rogerdodger, 16 May 2014 - 10:11 PM.
BIGGEST SCIENCE SCANDAL EVER...Official records systematically 'adjusted'.
#5
Posted 16 May 2014 - 11:26 PM
Dysfunctional bureaucracy always plagues any huge government system.
So in 2010, it introduced a new appointment system requiring a maximum 14-day wait for an appointment.
As a result, patients might get an initial appointment as required, but then be placed on a hidden waiting list since resources were limited.
In one reported incident, as many as 40 patients died after waiting for up to a year to be treated.
Officials at the hospital shredded documents and faked evidence to make it seem as if waiting times were within the 14 day goal.
Evidence is mounting that this was far from an isolated case at the VA.
But this is government in charge of your health care.
Wait until Obama's stated purpose of taking over the entire US healthcare system is finally fulfilled.
The problems facing our veterans will be multiplied a million-fold.
Bureaucracy and budget restraints may soon be the leading cause of death in the USA.
The purpose of the government is to insure the freedom and liberty of its citizens.
Government is not your family.
It is not your church.
It is not your doctor.
It is not your owner.
Or is it?
Edited by Rogerdodger, 16 May 2014 - 11:40 PM.
BIGGEST SCIENCE SCANDAL EVER...Official records systematically 'adjusted'.
#6
Posted 17 May 2014 - 08:39 AM
Excellent demon seed piece.
I said that the ulitmate gun violence was the statist theft of labor,
here it is said that way.
"marxism-lennonism-communism always fails and never worked, because I know
some of them, and they don't work" M.Jordan
#7
Posted 17 May 2014 - 10:51 AM
Another snag: Health payouts may be wrong...
Under federal rules, consumers are notified if there is a problem with their application and asked to upload or mail in pay stubs or other proof of their income. Only a fraction have done so, according to the documents. And, even when they have, the federal computer system at the heart of the insurance marketplace cannot match this proof with the application because that capability has yet to be built.
The Keystone Cops and The Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight doing brain surgery.
What could go wrong?
No doubt they will all get a bonus!
PS: Any person unemployed in 2013 who receives Obamacare subsidies based on 2013 income, CAN NOT GET A JOB (EXCEPT UNDER THE TABLE PAYMENTS) without risking as much as $12,000 in subsidies... (other people's money).
Who would want to work?
As Nancy Pelosi famously said: Obama Care Helps Americans Avoid the Hassle of Working.
Edited by Rogerdodger, 17 May 2014 - 11:05 AM.
BIGGEST SCIENCE SCANDAL EVER...Official records systematically 'adjusted'.
#8
Posted 17 May 2014 - 12:02 PM
At my minor scale of enterprise value, I may be relatively successful to consolidate power over
those levels below me. I do this benignly by competing with intellectual property, no violence.
I may calculate I need 5 or 10 years of sustainance
in a permanent food value outside the matrix. That is certain scale of wealth required to compete
with gov., I have low expectations, like food value and a hole to hide in.
Imagine the bigger enterprise value, and even the biggest like a global corporation.
Imagine the consolidation of power they require to compete with government, to live another day.
It's all parasitic scale.
I may be motivated to have a mere value of food, to hide from the terror state for a matter of years,
the biggest enterprise would require total wealth, maybe all of it, to survive the terror state, at scale.
Competing with government then comes down to, parasitic darwinian survival, going up the scales of,
monetary leverage.
I may even calculate, to acheive a certain food value in permanent wealth, I may like
the demon seed to run a while longer like keep the masses voting for chinese phones,
while I harvest.
The toilet spiral is then self fullfilling, when you know the game, why not another day. One more
paycheck could be one more unit of permanant value.
It is all down to one source of disease, theft of labor, the statist gun violence.
"marxism-lennonism-communism always fails and never worked, because I know
some of them, and they don't work" M.Jordan
#9
Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:43 PM
It is all down to one source of disease, theft of labor, the statist gun violence.
Well put but not understood by the lemings waiting for the next handout.
Bureaucracy and budget restraints may soon be the leading cause of death in the USA.
BIGGEST SCIENCE SCANDAL EVER...Official records systematically 'adjusted'.
#10
Posted 17 May 2014 - 05:36 PM
"marxism-lennonism-communism always fails and never worked, because I know
some of them, and they don't work" M.Jordan