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#1 opinionated

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Posted 10 August 2019 - 08:02 PM

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#2 fib_1618

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:57 AM

Let 'em...to their own self destruction.

 

Same old, same old....

 

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#3 opinionated

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 10:08 AM

Contrary to whats expected might not be about your perception but the general markets.  

 

But I'm sure a crash in our bond market forcing artificial rates up would have no effect.



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Posted 11 August 2019 - 11:31 AM

Money would not be moving into debt instruments at such historic levels and amplitude if anything like this were to happen near or short term.

 

That said, how many more times has this potential Sword of Damocles been used as a bearish omen to keep the majority from owning equities, and more importantly, the questionable existence of the United States as the perennial superpower on the planet?? At this point, it's now going on 40 long years of fear mongering...and still nothing as the country (or individual) who would be hurt the most are those who decide to initiate such a fiscal policy as they KNOW that their economy wouldn't survive the consequences of such actions.

 

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 11:32 AM

And then once they have depleted their bond holdings... and nothing happens...

 

They lost all their leverage...

 

Don't expect it.


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#6 da_cheif

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 12:26 PM

watch the sky   6750n0



#7 ryanoo

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 02:12 PM

Foreign govs incl china, EU, japn, etc. selling US TSYs to raise USD, and US treasury dept selling TSYs to fund US Gov as the debt ceiling has been raised, they will all have the same effect as the QT ( the Fed winding down its balance sheet (selling US TSYs) ). 

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Japan may have to sell US TSYs as its gov is in deep trouble.  Their 1H 2019 trade surplus dropped by 87% relative to 1H 2018, their banking sector could melt down, and Japan is the most indebted nation in the world, even worse than Greece.  So, Japan may need to unload some US TSYs to fund its gov.  Three large holders of US TSYs (china, EU, japan) if they all start selling simultaneously, the impact will be much worse than the QT by Fed. 

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#8 fib_1618

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 03:09 PM

As I said earlier in the thread, with every single interest rate sensitive advance/decline line at or near their all time highs, no matter what kind of fundamental theory or supposition one can bring to the table, investment capital continues to say that interest rates are going maitain current levels or go even lower from current levels, and as long as this continues, this PROMISES us that we will see higher equity prices in the not too distant future.

 

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 03:21 PM

A/D's of any kind can't stop a 15% decline, just means no bear market yet.



#10 fib_1618

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 03:35 PM

A/D's of any kind can't stop a 15% decline, just means no bear market yet.

Broader market...maybe (would love for you to point to a specific example that didn't have prior bearish divergence)...but not at anytime when the interest rate sensitive cumulative A/D lines are leading the charge higher.

 

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