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#11 da_cheif

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 02:01 PM

ive changed my mind 17 times....lmao

#12 Vector

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 02:10 PM

I was once taught that the rich people’s habit was they were quick to make decisions and stick to them, whereas poor people are slow to make decisions and change all the time, and change them quickly. closed-minded skepticism is yet another trait of poor people. choice is up to you.

Edited by Vector, 25 April 2007 - 02:14 PM.


#13 Wallcrawler

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 02:17 PM

all I see and hear are people pounding the table for their own convictions. I never hear or see anyone change their mind or integrate new information.



I have learned that all truth seems to be relative to ones experience as it were... course not always the case in that many will make statements and such with nothing to back it up... except to say "I think"... (as you are alluding to)

I don't have a problem with ignorance as it were... however, I do have a problem when we as a people just choose to stay ignorent.... Ignorance... is you just don't know what...you don't know... but many refuse to take it a step further and turn ignorance into investagation... It is when we take this step of investagation...(and I don't mean ...just reading a news paper on the toilet) I mean really digging... that we have a responsability to speak out as it were... It is after we turn ignorance into investagation (be coming knowledgable about something) ... and do nothing about it... it becomes stupidity... This I have low tolorerance for!!!!

Anyways,... JMO - WC



I was once taught that the rich people’s habit was they were quick to make decisions and stick to them, whereas poor people are slow to make decisions and change all the time, and change them quickly.

closed-minded skepticism is yet another trait of poor people.

choice is up to you.


Have to say that this fits right with my signature... "No more effort is required to aim high in life, or to demand excellence and success than is required to accept failure and poverty."

Edited by Wallcrawler, 25 April 2007 - 02:18 PM.

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#14 stocks

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 02:47 PM

An abundance of research has shown that human beings are conservative processors of fallible information. Such experiments compare human behaviour with the outputs of Bayes's theorem, the formal optimal rule about how opinions... should be revised on the basis of new information. It turns out that opinion change is very orderly, and usually proportional to numbers calculated from Bayes's theorem - but it is insufficient in amount. A convenient first approximation to the data would say that it takes anywhere from two to five observations to do one observations' worth of work in inducing a subject to change his opinion. psychologist Ward Edwards
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#15 ed rader

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 04:18 PM

I was once taught that the rich people’s habit was they were quick to make decisions and stick to them, whereas poor people are slow to make decisions and change all the time, and change them quickly.

closed-minded skepticism is yet another trait of poor people.

choice is up to you.



dude who told you that ********? one of the "rich men" you idolize :lol: ?

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#16 TechSkeptic

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 04:38 PM

I too have changed my thinking on a number of issues over the years as a result of experiences, readings, and even board discussions here and elsewhere. And I always like to integrate new information. My bigger problem is information overload, filtering what is important and what is not, what is true and what is not. In my experience there is not always a hard and fast truth, and statistics can be manipulated and presented in such a way as to say almost anything. So I am open-minded, yet skeptical at the same time, if that's possible. :lol:

And common sense has always told me that between two diametrically opposing viewpoints, the most reasonable position is usually some somewhere in the middle. Perhaps some may say this is wishy-washy, but I call it rational and practical.




Actually , changing a person's or company mindset is the very essence of six sigma. We all have preconceived notions, the open-minded will listen to other ideas and viewpoints and rationally evaluate the data. Doesn't mean I have to change, but I need to be aware of the pros and cons of each. The voice of the customer is paramount. The problem lies in the data that is gathered, is it fact or opinion?
I fear the majority of data, such as news, is slanted to favor one side.


By the way, this is more or less what I meant by my confusing post. ty250 said it better than I did.

#17 maineman

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 07:05 PM

I found this interesting : http://en.wikipedia....itical_thinking



I also found the related articles on BIAS and SELF-DELUSION interesting.



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#18 TechSkeptic

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 07:52 PM

Thanks mm, interesting read.

#19 jjc

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Posted 26 April 2007 - 06:28 AM

I found this interesting : http://en.wikipedia....itical_thinking



I also found the related articles on BIAS and SELF-DELUSION interesting.



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