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#1 nimblebear

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 07:08 PM

Thornburg mortgage dropped 46% today. :huh: whooops..

In an exclusive interview on "Kudlow & Company," Larry Goldstone said that "Chapter 11 does not solve our problems. In fact, it would only make them worse. We have no intention of filing Chapter 11."

"We've been able to meet all of our obligations," Goldstone said. "We've been rolling over and financing our portfolio. It's been an amazing struggle to get that done."

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[TMA 7.61 -6.67 (-46.71%) ] plunged 46% Tuesday after several brokerages and Moody's Investors Service downgraded the residential mortgage lender amid concerns about liquidity. The shares have lost more than three-fifths of their value this month. Thornburg bonds also fell.

Shares were halted just before the market closed, after which Thornburg said it would delay its second-quarter dividend, was was due to be paid Wednesday, for a month.

Like many rivals, Thornburg has struggled because investors, wary of rising defaults, have refused to buy many kinds of loans. Among them are loans considered high quality, including Thornburg's specialty, prime "jumbo" loans--those above $417,000.

Many bankers are also refusing to extend credit to mortgage lenders. Nonetheless, Moody's said Thornburg has "superior asset quality."

Earlier Tuesday, Thornburg said that because of "unprecedented and irrational sentiment" in the secondary market, it will not accept new requests to lock in rates for four days.

"Financing in the jumbo mortgage space is difficult," Thornburg said in the CNBC interview. "But we are navigating our way through this process."

He added: "There are so many rumors flying around the Street, particularly about Thornburg Mortgage. But 80 percent of what you're hearing just isn't true."

Asked if the Federal Reserve could accept collateral other than Treasurys or other government-backed debt, Goldstone was doubtful:

"We've actually explored this over the last several days. We've spoken to our representatives here in New Mexico. We've had communications into the Fed, the Treasury department, the president trying to communicate what we think is ia very severe issue for the housing market and it's not about Wall Street," he said.

"It's about Main Street, because Main Street is being negatively affected by mortgage interest rates for jumbo mortgages today and its all because of this dislocation that's going on in the credit markets. Apparently, the Fed cannot change their collateral requirements like the Eurpean Central Bank...But I do believe the Fed could do some jawboning. I think they could get involved in a dialogue basis with the major banks and major Wall Street dealers and begin to provide some liquidity into the system."

Paul Miller, a Friedman Billings, Ramsey analyst, downgraded Thornburg stock to "underperform" from "market perform," citing "the current liquidity crisis in the asset-backed commercial paper and repurchase markets, coupled with the freezing up of the secondary market for jumbo loans."

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 07:16 PM

Thornburg mortgage dropped 46% today. :huh: whooops..
.......He added: "There are so many rumors flying around the Street, particularly about Thornburg Mortgage. But 80 percent of what you're hearing just isn't true."


Guess he never heard of the 80/20 rule. :lol:
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 07:25 PM

Strangely enough, I beleive him. He also said that out of 38,000 loans they own, only 58 are in default. And very high % of their loans are A+ And they market their book to CURRENT market and that dropped it by 25% to 14 bucks. And the market has sold off the stock to 8 bucks. This is typical panic, when people just aren't trying to figure out what is going on, throwing everything out the window. Yes, TMA may not be able to sell new mortgagesd for a while, but I think the current assets are way overdiscounted.... These types of panics are what creates values and opportunities. If someone ows you 100 bucks, and makes payment on time, and I'll come in and tell you that I'll give you 30 bucks for that loan.. what will you say ?

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 08:00 PM

And if you think subprime is a mess, the worst is yet to come for ARMS and other loans:

High-risk mortgages turning into toxic mess
Experts believe the biggest problems will emerge during next 16 months


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Linda Martin stands in front of one of her rental homes in Arvada, Colo. She owns a home and two rental properties in the area and refinanced the loans on all three houses back in October 2004 when rates were low. On the advice of a mortgage broker, she got into three mortgages totaling $775,000 that promised her a great deal and have turned out to be a financial sinkhole.
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Updated: 7:01 p.m. CT Aug 13, 2007
SAN FRANCISCO - When Linda Martin refinanced the mortgages on three different houses nearly three years ago, she thought the lower monthly payments would help her save more money for retirement.

Instead, the Lakewood, Colo. skin-care specialist is sinking in financial quicksand amid a widening mortgage morass that’s pulling down home prices and threatening to drag the U.S. economy into a recession.

“I’m hanging on by a thread, not knowing whether I am going to be living in a car in six months,” said Martin, who declined to reveal her age.
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 09:11 AM

Went Long TMA at 8.5 today. Will sell near end of day or if it dips below 8.75. Saw the CEO on CNBC yesterday and felt that the company is doing the right thing. The CEO said the company is worth 14.5 per share when marked to market yesterday.

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