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An Erie, Pa., cancer researcher says he has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.<br><br>

<hr>John Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he says he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies, it would burn.<br><br>

<b>The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.</b><br><br>

Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College, Pa., lab to confirm his own observations.<br><br>

The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.<br><br>

The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.<br><br>

"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."<br><br>

Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.<br><br>

The scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen — which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit — would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.<br><br>

"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."
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SORRY BUT THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH! 1ST LAW OF THERMO. EVEN WINDMILLS AND HYDROELECTRIC ARE NOT "FREE" FUEL, CONSTRUCTION, AMORTIZATION, MATERIALS, MAINTAINENCE, ETC. OIL AND NUCLEAR IS THE BEST AND CHEAPEST BIG VOLUME ENERGY SOURCES WE HAVE GOING EVEN AT 5 TIMES THE PRICE! REMEMBER THE FEDS AND STATE GOVT FIGHT OVER "COLD FUSION" ? ETC...


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[danzman]

"I say this is a perpetual motion machine." Pretty much. Capturing the heat will be inefficient at best. Oh well, maybe there's an app for this somewhere. About nuclear...just not enough fuel there. We would exhaust ores much too quickly if we had to rely on nuclear for world energy. I still wonder how much of a fossil fuel oil really is. A lot of wells are refilling themselves after drying up. Hopefully science will come to the rescue...but most seem to be betting on that one. D

[TTHQ Staff]

An Erie, Pa., cancer researcher says he has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.

SORRY BUT THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH! 1ST LAW OF THERMO. EVEN WINDMILLS AND HYDROELECTRIC ARE NOT "FREE" FUEL, CONSTRUCTION, AMORTIZATION, MATERIALS, MAINTAINENCE, ETC. OIL AND NUCLEAR IS THE BEST AND CHEAPEST BIG VOLUME ENERGY SOURCES WE HAVE GOING EVEN AT 5 TIMES THE PRICE! REMEMBER THE FEDS AND STATE GOVT FIGHT OVER "COLD FUSION" ? ETC...

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No kidding. Guess you missed this part:

That's the only sticking point as far as I can see, that is, "How much energy does it take to exert the high frequency radio wave?" But I love the idea.

EDIT: btw: I just looked back at the first comments for these videos on youtube-- they span 3 months. Don't know why this is the first I've heard of it, unless it has already been dismissed in the scientific community. Bummer.

The interesting thing may be this little tidbit we all seem to be overlooking: we can set fire to saltwater with radio waves. Regardless that this will not be the next "free lunch" it IS kinda cool. I didn't know it could be done. I'm learning something new all the time.

Oh and by the way, WE CAN SET FIRE TO SALTWATER.

[Rogerdodger]

For this to work, the energy input (via radio waves) to break the covalent bonds between Hydrogen and oxygen would have to be much less than the energy released (by burning) to recombining the exact same bonds!!!

That's my thought.

I still like my idea of using a front wheel drive electric car with a generator on the rear tires which would produce the electricity to turn the front tires.
Make the back tires bigger than the back tires and you would be going downhill all the time!
So simple.

Unplug your toaster when you leave home and you would be carbon neutral, if you don't fart.

[normxxx]

Sure it wasn't announced around April 1?