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#21 TheArchitect

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 07:18 PM

Nav pointed out: "NYSE Breadth MCO took out the 2/21 lows"

For myself, breadth leads price- breadth just spoke. Also, in the absense of posting the smiley and other faces-my spx count is that we were in a small 4 flat that ended in an a,b,c,d,e triangle. After finishing the e, I have a 1 down, 2 up, and 3 playing now of 5 of the larger 4 down. I'm sure Tea can tell me why my count is impossible-he's light years better than me, but, this is how I've traded what I see as the pattern-and so far,so good. When Tea clears up for me why my take has to be wrong, I'll learn from him again-but keep the money I already made.

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can't comment on wave counts... but will put out there that risk/reward to the downside is very good... would have been nice to see this happen on any other day than a friday... weekend risk of holding usually deters me from it... so the risk of a gap up above stops could blow the whole thing our of the water... but the momentum down is still strong... and daily oscillators are still overbought w/ MA type indicators trying to turn... classic TA... statistically looking to break a tri consolidation in direction of the trend... is rarely wrong... especially after a false breakout to the upside has failed... 100 spx points down... would be a lot more confident after an underside test of the tri break... maybe we'll see it monday... stay tuned... ;)

edit: that risk of a gap up monday has led me to remove my stops... as i believe that if it does happen... it will be sold off very rapidly... (i'm long qqqq puts at close... and long xhb calls since mid day) -TA

Edited by TheArchitect, 29 February 2008 - 07:21 PM.


#22 Frac_Man

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 07:45 PM

agree << :wub:








Sorry.....I just happen to disagree...........we just put in a very good bottom today.....Monday has the potential of being a very big up day....$#@%^&$& TA...
Here's my TA...
:redbull: :redbull: :redbull:

...that seems to satisfy most people....



#23 marco

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 07:55 PM

Could be IT..I just saw something in my TA...have a look...
What do you think?...it's bugging me a bit ...
:bear: :cat: :banana: :bull:
....in this case...I truly believe this weekend will be worth a weeks worth of fear..

*shivers* That banana scares me the most. :o

But seriously, one scenario is that either the ISM and/or the jobs report tanks next week, and the Fed butts in and cuts rates early. That makes it scary to be either a bear or a bull next week. :o

Since I'm kind of new to the game here, to anyone who wants to answer this incredibly naive question (yes, I'm duly embarrassed :P) ...is the theory behind "testing the low" that it's the mutual funds that we're waiting for to either save the day or not? I can't see program traders or hedgies being the ones since they make money short or long. So it seems only the mutual funds have the firepower and the vested interest to make the save. Right or wrong?

#24 SemiBizz

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 09:06 PM

Testing the low is about proving the point that there are no more parties interested in selling at those prices... Conversely, testing the highs is proving the point there are no more parties interested in buying at those prices..
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#25 cybersaavy

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 10:46 PM

Possible wave count here:

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#26 marco

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 11:11 PM

Testing the low is about proving the point that there are no more parties interested in selling at those prices...

So it's less about big guys coming in buying than it is about people just not selling anymore. Okay, got it. Theres's a theory that mutual funds step in to support stocks at the 200 DMA (obviously not working well in this market, but whatever), and I thought the same thing might apply here. Guess not. Thanks much for the clarif.

#27 NAV

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 02:00 AM

Sorry.....I just happen to disagree...........we just put in a very good bottom today.....Monday has the potential of being a very big up day....$#@%^&$& TA...
Here's my TA...
:redbull: :redbull: :redbull:

...that seems to satisfy most people....


Lol, Tea. Seems like you too have invented a Flux in your garage. Great TA. Thanks. :lol:

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#28 eminimee

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 05:26 AM

Possible wave count here:

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I've saved this chart and will show it every time I see that count....it's very popular...and I'll believe in it if someone can put a 5 count on this move in the box....I can't ...so personally....I've dismissed that particular count. ...but that's just me. I'm really not concerned with the IT to LT counts right now as it's pretty messy....but I did post something in my blog yesterday. fwiw

http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$SPX&p=60&st=2007-12-01&en=2008-01-01&i=p99259261301&a=93045759&r=3496.png

#29 StillLearnin

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 09:04 AM

Tea, You beat me to it! I was thinking the same thing. Good work. SL

#30 cgnx

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 04:52 PM

buy puts on something you hate and calls on whatever you love. you may do great on both
If it can be cornered, it will.