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[salsabob]

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Reality is that drought, heat, cold and snow prove nothing across the vast millennia of endless natural climate variation.

Yep, all we need to do is consult with some dinosaurs about how they stopped their cities being inundated by rising seawater.

Other than yourself, Roger, do you have any dinos around in Oklahoma to consult with, i.e., live ones?

In the meantime -

7th warmest November moves 2014 closer to record warm year

November 2014 had the seventh highest global average combined land and sea surface temperature on record with the average ocean surface temperature remaining at a record high level, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reported in its latest monthly global analysis released on Wednesday. In addition, the agency reported that the January through November 2014 average was the highest that has ever been recorded, setting the stage for 2014 to possibly be the warmest year on record.

“If December is at least 0.42°C (0.76°F) higher than its 20th century average, 2014 will surpass 2005 and 2010 as the warmest year on record,” the NOAA report stated. Furthermore, according to NBC News, Jake Crouch of the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. remarked, "If December 2014 ranks among the 10 warmest on record, 2014 will end up being the warmest year on record for the globe.” Due to the fact that water temperatures rise and fall more slowly than land temperatures and that November’s ocean temperature remained at a record high for the month, unless there is a significant global land surface cooling, 2014 will most likely shatter the record for combined average land and ocean surface temperatures.

[Rogerdodger]

95% of climate models got it so wrong. Reality bites.

All this during a year that climate scientists are saying will be the hottest on record based on surface temperature readings.
“The first ten months of 2014 (January–October) were the warmest such period since record keeping began in 1880,” the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported. “2014 is currently on track to be the warmest year on record.”

Satellite records show that 2014 will not be the warmest year on record, but satellites are not used by government weather and climate agencies to make their average global temperature estimates.

Antarctic sea ice coverage also beat scientists expectations this year. South pole sea ice broke 7.7 million square miles of coverage in October for the first time since records began in 1979.

“It’s not expected,” John Turner, a climate scientist at the British Antarctic Survey, told The Guardian. “The world’s best 50 models were run and 95% of them have Antarctic sea ice decreasing over the past 30 years.”

Japan, India Hit By Snowfall Crisis During 'Hottest Year On Record'...

One of China's largest waterfalls freezes over in 'incredibly cold weather'...

Edited by Rogerdodger, 23 December 2014 - 03:10 PM.

[Rogerdodger]

Vegas Snow...Again? It must be the Global Warming that the Pope warned us about.

RARE SNOW TO BLANKET VEGAS...
Las Vegas, which averages about 0.3 of an inch of snow per year, is forecast to receive 1-3 inches of snow during Tuesday night into Thursday morning.
According to the Las Vegas National Weather Service Office, there have only been 15 snowstorms that brought greater than 1 inch of snow.
Records have been kept since 1937.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 30 December 2014 - 12:03 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

Arctic Cold Grips California; Rare Snow to Impact Southwest...

Earth's sea ice expands to record high...

STUDY: Carbon dioxide emissions help rainforests grow faster...

Record lows over much of the area range from the upper teens to the middle 20s during the end of December into the first part of January.
"Temperatures will drop below 28 F for two to five hours in some locations, which is the level where damage can occur to the citrus crop if preventative measures are not taken," Mohler said.
Temperatures are forecast to drop as low as the middle 20s to near 30 degrees for a couple of hours in agricultural areas of Southern California Thursday night into Friday night.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 30 December 2014 - 03:37 PM.

[Rogerdodger]

CHICAGO COLD SET TO SMASH RECORDS...

Brutal Cold to Invade Midwest, East...

POLAR VORTEX RETURNS...

Liability Concerns Prompt Cities to Limit Sledding...

Americans on move want warmth...

Edited by Rogerdodger, 04 January 2015 - 11:39 PM.

[salsabob]

The latest -

2014 Was Hottest Year On Record Globally By Far, Reports Japan Meteorological Agency
BY JOE ROMM POSTED ON JANUARY 5, 2015 AT 9:09 AM

The Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) has announced that 2014 was the hottest year in more than 120 years of record-keeping — by far. NOAA is expected to make a similar call in a couple of weeks and so is NASA.

As the JMA graph shows, there has been no “hiatus” or “pause” in warming. In fact, there has not even been a slowdown. Yes, in JMA’s ranking of hottest years, 1998 is in (a distant) second place — but 1998 was an outlier as the graph shows. In fact, 1998 was boosted above the trendline by an unusual super-El Niño. It is usually the combination of the underlying long-term warming trend and the regional El Niño warming pattern that leads to new global temperature records.

What makes setting the record for hottest year in 2014 doubly impressive is that it occurred despite the fact we’re still waiting for the start of El Niño. But this is what happens when a species keeps spewing record amounts of heat-trapping carbon pollution into the air, driving CO2 to levels in the air not seen for millions of years, when the planet was far hotter and sea levels tens of feet higher.

The JMA is a World Meteorological Organization (WMO) Regional Climate Center of excellence. The WMO had announced a month ago that 2014 was on track to be hottest year on record. Different climate-tracking groups around the world use different data sets, so they can show different results for 2014 depending on how warm December turns out to be.

But in mid-December, NOAA said it’s all but certain 2014 will be a record setter. It released this figure showing that all plausible scenarios for December still leave last year as the hottest ever (click to enlarge):

If you were wondering how 2014 could be the hottest year on record when it wasn’t particularly hot in the United States (if we ignore California and Alaska), NBC News has the story. It turns out there’s like a whole planet out there that has been getting very toasty:

Some of the hottest places in the world in 2014 included:

Europe was the hottest it’s been in 500 years. One new analysis concluded “global warming has made a temperature anomaly like the one observed in 2014 in Europe at least 80 times more likely.”

California had record-smashing heat, which helped create its “most severe drought in the last 1200 years.”

Australia broke heat records across the continent (for the second year running). Back in January, “temperatures soared higher than 120°F (49°C).”

Much of Siberia “defrosted in spring and early summer under temperatures more than 9°F (5°C) above its 1981 to 2010 average,” as Live Science noted. This is the second exceptionally hot summer in a row for the region, and scientists now think the huge crater discovered this year in the area “was probably caused by thawing permafrost.”

The permafrost (soon to be renamed the permamelt) contains twice as much carbon as the entire atmosphere. If we don’t reverse emissions trends sharply and soon, then the carbon released from it this century alone could boost global warming as much as 1.5°F.

More reporting on 2014 hottest year to come... along with more warming, of course.

[salsabob]

..but, but, mommy, it's snowing outside!

This is a NOAA paper used to help elementary kids understand why it could be colder or snowing outside even though the globe is warming -

http://www.climate.g...ming-everywhere

Does "global warming" mean it’s warming everywhere?

It is reported that most 5th graders respond with "Well, everyone knows that!"

Obviously, most 5th graders are not candidates for the echo chamber.

It's only a matter of time before the old cranky dudes move on and the kids can then get a lot of good things done.

[Rogerdodger]

Who is NOAA and Japan in bed with?
The anti-American, anti-capitalism, political crony industrial-climate establishment.

Agenda driven hysteria: Global Warming fits the bill (although cold kills vast numbers of people, much more than heat.)
“in searching for a new enemy to unite us [all of humanity], we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself.” (Read Capitalism)
The First Global Revolution

GLOBAL COOLING MUST BE STOPPED!

Time Magazine was all in a panic about global cooling not too long ago. Jun. 24, 1974
So were many others:
“Whatever the cause of the cooling trend, its effects could be extremely serious, if not catastrophic."
It was even suggested to put soot on the snow cover to warm the earth back up.

“American Far West, while New England and northern Europe have recently experienced the mildest winters within anyone’s recollection.
When meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing."

“Man, too, may be somewhat responsible for the cooling trend."
(Hot OR cold, It's my fault. i.e.: (I have seen the enemy and it is us.")




Strange how the 70’s experienced a cooling period after industrial age decades of “fossil fuel” burning, isn’t it? Only strange if you believe more man-made CO2 will burn up the planet, or cool it depending on the political climate of the day. The agenda does not change with the weather.


That's why those older and wiser and without an anti-American anti-capitalism agenda know better THAN A 5TH GRADER.


PS: Since plants (food) do well in a warmer climate with more CO2 present, we can only hope for more heat.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 05 January 2015 - 12:48 PM.

[salsabob]

Who is NOAA and Japan in bed with?
The industrial-climate establishment.

I would guess Janet Yellen, Eric Holder, Hollywood, IRS, etc, etc. and all leading, of course, to Benghazi!

[salsabob]

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“in searching for a new enemy to unite us [all of humanity], we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself.” (Read Capitalism)
The First Global Revolution

Yea, with that kind of thinking, we should have just sat back and let the Plague, typhoid, polio, or a host of other agents, all related to population growth, decimate us. It's possible to have both an economy and an environment - just requires some thinking and ingenuity; oh, and it will help when an old tired-out generation moves on and eventually out.

Time Magazine was all in a panic about global cooling not too long ago. Jun. 24, 1974

Yea, and their mainframes taking up entire buildings had less computational power than what most kids carry around in their pocket today to make phone calls.

The problem is too many old cranky guys remembering the 1970s. Time will fix that.

That's why those older and wiser and without an anti-American anti-capitalism agenda know better THAN A 5TH GRADER.

Most 5th graders today are going to be much better capitalists and Americans because they are not locked into fantasyland - they actual know and appreciate real science.

Edited by salsabob, 05 January 2015 - 01:00 PM.