At least on one thing we agree.There is a big understanding gap in economic theory.....

Posted 18 January 2009 - 11:51 PM
At least on one thing we agree.There is a big understanding gap in economic theory.....
Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:02 AM
Tax the rich at a very high rate and government will shrink in size. Then the tax burden on everyone will fall.
James
Yes- the economy would go further into tailspin allright....but who in their right mind could possibly want that? This is positively the single most bizarre presciption for economic well being I've ever seen......would have the effect of shrinking tax receipts and therefore...the economy along with the govt. itself.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:09 AM
Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:18 AM
UFO's example and in fact all empirical evidence argues the exact opposite. Excessively taxing the rich both reduces incentive to become rich and thus impedes activity, effort and risk taking, and causes those who already are rich to simply leave...each of which have a decidedly negative impact on economic development. Economic history bears this out- again and again. Show me where raising taxes on the rich has ever increased economic activity- in real life.If a smaller government would benefit the super rich, then the size and cost of government would shrink. Government could not grow in size against the wishes of those with the money and power to make it small if that was to their advantage.
Edited by IYB, 19 January 2009 - 12:20 AM.
Posted 19 January 2009 - 01:03 AM
Posted 19 January 2009 - 01:12 AM
UFO's example and in fact all empirical evidence argues the exact opposite. Excessively taxing the rich both reduces incentive to become rich and thus impedes activity, effort and risk taking, and causes those who already are rich to simply leave...each of which have a decidedly negative impact on economic development. Economic history bears this out- again and again. Show me where raising taxes on the rich has ever increased economic activity- in real life.If a smaller government would benefit the super rich, then the size and cost of government would shrink. Government could not grow in size against the wishes of those with the money and power to make it small if that was to their advantage.
Posted 19 January 2009 - 01:49 AM
We need to heavily tax those who are destroying our free market.
Posted 19 January 2009 - 03:46 AM
http://www.portfolio...n-Stock-Trading
I am an advocate of a trading tax even back when George Bush Sr. sent out a trial balloon for one which, of course, was quickly shot down. (If I recall correctly the trial balloon lasted one day and was never heard from again) Most on this board are opposed to ANY tax on trading which I fully understand, however, the tax would fall only on the user. Not unlike a gasoline tax, toll tax, telephone tax, etc. The tax need not be .0025% on the total transaction. Actually a flat fee user tax of say $20 per transaction would be acceptable to many I believe. With trillions of debt it is well understood taxes will be raised for the many. IMO this is one of the least egregious ways to raise revenue.
Good trading to all.
Posted 19 January 2009 - 08:10 AM
Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:01 AM
I am a long time advocate of the Value Added Tax. That is the only consumption type tax I endorse. The sales tax is the most egregious of all taxes as it falls hardest on those with the least ability to pay.
The only statistic on program trading I could find on short notice is the one listed here: Appears to me that program trading was about 30% of all trades on the NYSE in 2007. Hardly productive. Raises no new capital; rather it lines pockets of large banks, brokers, and provides obscene bonuses to their management.
Regards impairing capital...................hmmmm I hardly think $20 will impair or opaque much of anything. Just my take.
this is one of the least egregious ways to raise revenue
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So, less information available to market participants is a good thing? Less liquidity and larger bid/ask spreads are a good thing? Less ability to allocate capital efficiently is a good thing?
Any "trading tax" is one of the MOST egregious ways to raise revenue.
The reason is very simple. The ONLY way that standards of living increase is through increases in productivity. The ONLY way that productivity increases is through capital investment. Obviously, anything that discourages capital investment will be to the detriment of productivity and standards of living in general.
Very, very bad idea. You wanna tax something, try consumption.
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