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[Rogerdodger]

The EU structure is outright anti-democratic where the people are not represented at all.

Martin Armstrong

 

Please go online and read the transcript of Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership.

 

Oh. I forgot. It was passed in secret. Once again only the Elite know what's in it.

 

Even the Representatives of the people had to get special permission to read it and they could not make any copies, even hand written notes. Who made that rule? Not the people or their representatives.

 

Why?

 

The sleeping giant is beginning to awaken, as seen in England, Iceland...(and the USA) ;-)

 

Enough said.

 

'Open revolt against encrusted establishment'...
them POLLSTER: ONLY ELITES CARE...
Political novice wins Iceland presidency in anti-establishment wave...

Edited by Rogerdodger, 26 June 2016 - 08:22 AM.

[clueless]

not quite enough - http://www.globalres...-colony/5417382

 

The TTIP is practically irreversible. Once agreed and signed by Brussels and Washington, the treaty would be enforced in all EU members and could only be amended or revoked by agreement of all 28 EU members and the US. This would almost be impossible. An individual (no longer) ‘sovereign’ EU member government could no longer decide to drop out of the agreement if and when it realizes that the TTIP works against its public interest, since it is not the individual country that signs the TTIP, but the EU.

The only way out would be exiting or dissolving the EU.

International “free trade” agreements such as the TTIP and the TPP which will override the National Sovereignty of any country who signs them, the Constitution of any country, their Constitutional law courts and any laws that any government may or may not make regarding health regulations, minimum wage regulations or environmental requirements. Far from being Capitalism with checks and balances restricting monopolies, it is a form of Corporate Fascist hegemonic colonialism and Corporate Empire building, eliminating all competition in the interests of monopolies.

[clueless]

https://wikileaks.org/ttip/

 

draft of TTIP from wikileaks

[Rogerdodger]

This Globalist Beast is getting a bit unreal! And all too familiar.

"The Beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark"

[clueless]

 

This Globalist Beast is getting a bit unreal! And all too familiar.

"The Beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark"

 

spx low 2009 - 666.79

[AChartist]

here's berwick on brexit

 

it was framed to be allowed because if voting counted it would be illegal

 

it was 7 years 7 months 7 days 7 hours from 9/29/2008

 

[pdx5]

The 2 million votes for 2nd referendum was a prank!

Bots were voting!

 

http://heatst.com/po...?mod=sm_tw_post

[salam]

Parliamentary fightback against Brexit on cards | Politics | The Guardian - www.theguardian.com
http://www.theguardi...aign_type=Email

2 years to implement exit
Parliamentary opposition pending
2nd referendum or more likely an earlier general election with a democratic mandate to remain.

How will this influence trading? Volatility and wild swings are ahead.

Ps a minority of the votes were from outside the UK. Only need 100k to generate parliamentary debate. 77k fake signatures have been removed

Second referendum petition: Inquiry removes at least 77,000 fake signatures, as hackers claim responsibility for 'prank' - www.telegraph.co.uk
http://www.telegraph...aign_type=Email

Edited by salam, 26 June 2016 - 01:25 PM.

[clueless]

The Brits are fools if they allow a bunch of Tories to override the will of the people. 

[MaryAM]

The last vestiges of Western Civilization have collapsed into a full tribal society in Europe and the US- not just multicultural.  It has accelerated in a downward spiral since the end of WWII - at least in the US when we started accepting any one and everyone from other parts of the world who wanted to come here for what ever reason - not just religious freedom.  With a tribal society you can have no laws that are enforceable.  No single language and no common faith.  Nothing to center on and no common values.  Those that immigrated from Europe in the early years of our country basically had much the same values of work and family - they learned English - and didn't  expect any aspect of their life to be communicated in so many different languages that you can't figure out what page of the instructions you can read to operate your new coffee pot. Yes they came seeking religious freedom - but were all essentially Christians with many common values and common beliefs.   No one was "insulted" by someone saying "Merry Christmas" - but those of us with many generations in this country no longer know who in the hell we are going to offend from one minute to the next by just being who we are.  Those running the EU and the FED are essentially tribal entities with a tribal mentality serving only members of their tribe that adhere to their instructions- they have never descended from any civilization in the history of the world.  Even during the period of the Roman Empire - many different races existed within its territories - However - if you did not speak the language, adhere to the religion of the empire, aspire to be part of the system you were termed a "barbarian" and although you lived within the empire the government provided you with nothing.  We need to return to what worked for centuries.   Oh yes - the Roman Empire collapsed when immigration got out of control and its currency was no longer accepted in trade - I think their fiat currency (leather coins) lasted about 70 years old before this happened (they became so important that gold didn't matter any more - until it did matter once again and then it was too late).   The average length of time a fiat currency lasts in an advanced country is about 30 years - we are living on borrowed time.   Its only a matter of time before states begin to exit the US.