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[salsabob]

Here are what SCIENTISTS say about the amygdala-dominated 'argument that "its the sun's fault" -

- Satellites measure less heat escaping to space at the precise wavelengths which CO2 absorbs.
- Surface measurements find this heat is returning to Earth to warm the surface.
- An increased greenhouse effect would make nights warm faster than days, and this is what has been observed.
- If the warming is due to solar activity, then the upper atmosphere (the stratosphere) should warm along with the rest of the atmosphere. But if the warming is due to the greenhouse effect, the stratosphere should cool because of the heat being trapped in the lower atmosphere (the troposphere). Satellite measurements show that the stratosphere is cooling.
- This combination of a warming troposphere and cooling stratosphere should cause the tropopause, which separates them, to rise. This has also been observed.
- It was predicted that the ionosphere would shrink, and it is indeed shrinking.

References provided here -
http://www.skeptical.../its-not-us.htm
- under the "advanced" (i.e. not for the amygdala-dominated; it hurts their brains) tab.


Note that on those rare occasions when the amygdala-dominated drop their weather reporting and admit to global warming, their 'blog science' never gets beyond reporting sun spots. No attempts at explaining factual atmospheric changes that clearly point to that warming is due to CO2 buildup.

Just a friendly reminder to those of you who have not yet succumbed to their amygdala dominance and can still, well, you know, think.

Edited by salsabob, 21 July 2015 - 09:03 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

Here are what SCIENTISTS say:
Time to buy a heavier overcoat!

This Sunspot comparison chart shows why the next few years may be below normal temperature wise.
This week locally we had a record low high temperature for August.
That follows several years now of RECORD "below normal" temps.
Calgary stunned by snowfall in middle of summer...
August 22, 2015
Twitter user Alison Wong wrote: 'Calgary, my beautiful hometown, where I've now officially seen snow in every single month of the year.'

Edited by Rogerdodger, 23 August 2015 - 11:31 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

Got Overcoat?
Solar cycle 24 is turning out to be one of the weakest in history and perhaps just the beginning of predicted solar minimum.
Meanwhile the global warming climate change circus continues.
The climate has been changing since day one.

Summer Snow to Greet Obama on Alaska Climate Trip August 30th, 2015 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.
When President Obama visits Alaska this week to appear in a reality TV show...O yeah, and campaign for a new international agreement to fight global warming climate change, Alaska will be experiencing colder than normal weather and forecast summer snows.

[Rogerdodger]

Here are what SCIENTISTS say: There are cycles. Whooda thought?

STUDY: Atlantic entering new quieter cycle of storm activity...
Cooler water...

Scientists at Colorado State University, including the professor who pioneered hurricane seasonal prognostication, say they are seeing a localized cooling and salinity level drop in the North Atlantic near Greenland. Those conditions, they theorize, change local weather and ocean patterns and form an on-again, off-again cycle in hurricane activity that they trace back to the late 1800s.
The busy cycle started around 1995 and probably ended in 2012.
"So what happens in the next few years is going to be very exciting to watch as it may help settle or at least refine some intense scientific debates," Vecchi said in an email.

PS: Each layer in this rock formation shows CLIMATE CHANGE.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 07 September 2015 - 11:44 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

Arctic GAINING Hundreds Of Miles of Ice...
Red shows the September 2012 minimum extent. Green shows the current extent, which is likely the minimum for 2015. The Arctic has gained hundreds of miles of ice over the past three years, much of which is thick, multi-year ice.
Nobel Prize winning climate experts and journalists tell us that the Arctic is ice-free, because they are propagandists pushing an agenda, not actual scientists or journalists.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 09 September 2015 - 08:53 PM.

[salsabob]

Arctic GAINING Hundreds Of Miles of Ice...
Red shows the September 2012 minimum extent. Green shows the current extent, which is likely the minimum for 2015. The Arctic has gained hundreds of miles of ice over the past three years, much of which is thick, multi-year ice.
Nobel Prize winning climate experts and journalists tell us that the Arctic is ice-free, because they are propagandists pushing an agenda, not actual scientists or journalists.

We all know by now the big cherry-pick of 1998 as the basis for "a decade of cooling," but it looks like the amygdala-dominated deniers have a new big cherry pick to foist onto the brainless. If this chart makes that obvious -



- your cerebral lobes are doing their job.

One does wonder if the amygdala dominance has more than just the obvious impact on rational thinking - there's certainly a myriad of evidence that it plays havoc with one's ethics.


Oh, and a recent note from actual climate scientists -

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Steady decline, seasonal minimum approaching

August saw a remarkably steady decline in Arctic sea ice extent, at a rate slightly faster than the long-term average. Forecasts show that this year’s minimum sea ice extent, which typically occurs in mid to late September, is likely to be the third or fourth lowest in the satellite record. All four of the lowest extents have occurred since 2007. In mid-August, Antarctic sea ice extent began to trend below the 1981 to 2010 average for the first time since November 2011.

I return you to cherry-picking, weather reports, birth certificates, bat boy in cave, Mayan Calendar, and other typical spew of the amygdala-dominated.

[Rogerdodger]

It looks like the insulter in chief is still at it.
He has no clue that insults are evidence of a weak argument.

Now we return to reality: There are cycles.
Climate has changed since the beginning of time.
Real scientists are curious and do not say the "science is settled", since so little is understood about this vast, dynamic system.

A Strong El Nino Is Here, and Likely To Last Through Winter and Spring, NOAA Says

El Niño is an anomalous, yet periodic, warming of the central and eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean. For reasons still not well understood, every two to seven years, this patch of ocean warms for six to 18 months.

This warming of equatorial Pacific water influences the atmospheric pattern from the western Pacific Ocean, including Australia and Indonesia, to North and South America, the Atlantic Ocean, even parts of Europe and Africa.

NOAA's September report cited broad forecaster and model consensus this El Nino will persist through winter 2015-2016, before weakening, as most typically do, in spring 2016.

[Rogerdodger]

OMG!
Rain in Southern California after a drought.
Must be a cycle.
A "TYPICAL" El Nino pattern.

RAIN! SO CAL...

A Strong El Nino Is Here, and Likely To Last Through Winter and Spring, NOAA Says

Meanwhile in the north, "experts" prove to be impotent.

Computer Models Failing to Accurately Predict Path of Flames...

Edited by Rogerdodger, 15 September 2015 - 08:44 PM.

[salsabob]

It looks like the insulter in chief is still at it.
He has no clue that insults are evidence of a weak argument.

Revealing someone's 1/2 truth (in this case, less than 1/10 truth) is not an insult, it is a public service.

Your welcome.

[Rogerdodger]

Your ignorance of the role of the amygdalae seems to correspond with your ignorance that we have been coming out of an ice age, as well as a solar minimum.

Ice melts when it warms up. Water freezes when it cools.

Note that your posted chart corresponds nicely with the last several decades of intense solar activity.
Solar activity (as seen below in Cycle #24) has been diminishing recently and ice has been increasing.



This map outlines the median ice coverage since solar activity began to increase since 1981.
The green shows new ice growth since solar cycle #24 began:

Edited by Rogerdodger, 16 September 2015 - 04:04 PM.