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The "Dividend Basket" might be coming off the lows:

All of these pay about a 5% yield.

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For the bears:

Doug Noland says the top is in.

Steven Hochberg says massive deflationary collapse is upon us.

About halfway through this podcast, Hochberg is interviewed by Moe Ansari:

http://marketwrapwit...Wrap-130822.mp3

Eric Sprott says we are about to have a Frightening Collapse

[fluid]

Faber says we are going to have a crash Ralph Make-em-poorer says we are going to have it the crash Prechter, all of them Hindenberg also said it. 99 times out of a 100 I can safely say I make money fading these guys. I have a long with a stop loss, instead of reading this utter nonsense - as if they KNOW. Rediculous.

[pdx5]

This is also an all time high in the price of Tesla, which will change not only the US but the world, which will look very different in the next 5-10 years that is a truth:

I recall hearing back in 1999-2000 that internets were going to change the world. When I bought my first color TV way back in the 1960's, TV stocks were the rage.

Tesla is the current fad, and yes, the stock can go into stratosphere.
But please explain why is substituting gasoline burning pollution worse than coal & NG & oil burning power plant pollution? Could it be that the power plants are located far away while the cars are ubiquitous around us?

Edited by pdx5, 24 August 2013 - 12:14 PM.

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This is also an all time high in the price of Tesla, which will change not only the US but the world, which will look very different in the next 5-10 years that is a truth:

I recall hearing back in 1999-2000 that internets were going to change the world. When I bought my first color TV way back in the 1960's, TV stocks were the rage.

Tesla is the current fad, and yes, the stock can go into stratosphere.
But please explain why is substituting gasoline burning pollution worse than coal & NG & oil burning power plant pollution? Could it be that the power plants are located far away while the cars are ubiquitous around us?

Because there are clean alternatives available in producing electricity. Even if pollution is caused by a power plant the production is centralised and can therefore becleaned at source, unlike a mobile pollution vehicle.

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Bottom line is that anyone who loaded big on Tesla can sell now and they are: Done. Finished. Retired. Guys who are bears now are Gambling on the chance that another repeat of 2008 is going to happen, when guys going long different "Glam" stocks have made fortunes over and over.

[ogm]

Bottom line is that anyone who loaded big on Tesla can sell now and they are:

Done.
Finished.
Retired.

Guys who are bears now are Gambling on the chance that another repeat of 2008 is going to happen, when guys going long different "Glam" stocks have made fortunes over and over.

Why does it have to be a crash or the end of the world? Why can't it just be a 10-20% decline? Stocks are clearly ahead of any kind of reality and have plenty of air in them. Every time a stock posts bad earnings it tanks 15-20%. Thats yout clue. In cheap market stocks go up on bad earnings.

As for Tesla, etc. I like Tesla. I'm not short it, but I wouldn't chase it either.

But I do know guys who are still waiting for JDSU and other "Glam stocks" to come back.

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ogm,

If you want to short some "Glam Stocks", just pick stocks that have been on the IBD Top 50 too long.

The classic was AAPL, that stock was on the list as long as I can remember, seems like when O'Neil keeps a stock on the list too long and lots of mo-mo players are gaming it, it is sure to crash with near 100% certainty.

There have been many good scores over the last few years: CMG, NFLX, etc. had some spectacular crashes.

The last stock I remember crashing from that list was PNRA.

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The top stock that has been on a "straight line boner run" that never seems to go down is Fleetcor. I think they distribute EBT cards for the government, LOL!!!

http://www.fleetcor....our_company.htm

This is the next one guaranteed to have a spectacular crash.

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Edited by PrintFaster, 24 August 2013 - 09:36 PM.

[pdx5]

Because there are clean alternatives available in producing electricity. Even if pollution is caused by a power plant the production is centralised and can therefore becleaned at source, unlike a mobile pollution vehicle.

The internal combustion engine is far more efficient in extracting energy from fuel than any power plant can ever be. The energy is produced right at the usage point and the forces created due to explosive combustion go directly in creating torque where it is needed.

A fossil fuel power plant OTOH has lots of built in energy losses, beginning with efficiency of the boiler, efficiency of the turbine, efficiency of the electricity generator, efficiency of the step up transformer, power losses in transmission lines, efficiency of the step down transformers at sub-station, efficiency of the battery charger. The overall efficiency = multiplication of each efficiency along the chain. To illustrate this, if all these steps operate at an optimistic 90% efficiency, the overall efficiency = 0.9 x 0.9 x 0.9 x 0.9 x 0.9 x 0.9 x 0.9 = 0.48%.

The so called green energy alternatives, such as wind turbines also have efficiency losses in generators, transformers, transmission lines etc. Although the main problem with them is what happens when there is no wind blowing or sun shining.

No matter how much cleaning is done at a centralized power plant, it is still burning carbon based fuel and generating CO2 in proportion to fuel burned.

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Wow, fluid has gone completely nuts

Is fluid a bot ?