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#1 diogenes227

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 07:28 PM

From the link:

 

 

This is a bit tricky at the moment because of the late reporting. One has to guess what is happening with margin debt behind the monthly market moves. Since the August drop in price is reflected in the margin debt drop (big professional players lightening up, maybe desperately lightening up), and since the market has rallied so far this month, one can guess margin debt may move up a bit here in September but not a enough to head off what is to come.

 

And since the market likes to fool everyone into complacency at the last possible moment, a new high here would probably be just enough to lock long-term investors in when they should be at least shuffling, if not running, to the exit.

 

For the history and a chart:

 

MARGIN DEBT - the same old same old


"If you've heard this story before, don't stop me because I'd like to hear it again," Groucho Marx (on market history?).

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#2 skott

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 07:56 PM

so do I go long, go short? or find a comfortable cave to hide in?



#3 .Blizzard

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 03:31 AM

Margin debt can stay at these leves for 100 Years

What we need is a catalyst element...

 

1) Dot Com Bubble

2) Iraq war

3) Subprime mortgage crisis

 

4)????


 
 
 


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Posted 26 September 2019 - 08:29 AM

Margin debt can stay at these leves for 100 Years
What we need is a catalyst element...
 
1) Dot Com Bubble
2) Iraq war
3) Subprime mortgage crisis
 
4)????


4 - TEOTWAWKI
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#5 gismeu

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 08:53 AM

 

Margin debt can stay at these leves for 100 Years
What we need is a catalyst element...
 
1) Dot Com Bubble
2) Iraq war
3) Subprime mortgage crisis
 
4)????


4 - TEOTWAWKI

 

 

 

The End Of The World As We Know It???????

 

gis


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#6 diogenes227

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 09:05 AM

 

 

Margin debt can stay at these leves for 100 Years
What we need is a catalyst element...
 
1) Dot Com Bubble
2) Iraq war
3) Subprime mortgage crisis
 
4)????


4 - TEOTWAWKI

 

 

 

The End Of The World As We Know It???????

 

gis

 

 

Thanks for the translation.

 

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"If you've heard this story before, don't stop me because I'd like to hear it again," Groucho Marx (on market history?).

“I've learned in options trading simple is best and the obvious is often the most elusive to recognize.”

 

"The god of trading rewards persistence, experience and discipline, and absolutely nothing else."


#7 gismeu

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 09:17 AM

Your welcome Diogenes,

 

by the way, thanks for your link about how you trade. I vaguely remember having read it some time ago, but

am still an options premium seller by and large. However, my short term forecasting has become a lot better,

so will try that soon.

 

best, gis


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#8 12SPX

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 09:26 AM

Your welcome Diogenes,

 

by the way, thanks for your link about how you trade. I vaguely remember having read it some time ago, but

am still an options premium seller by and large. However, my short term forecasting has become a lot better,

so will try that soon.

 

best, gis

Yay another option seller, boring but profitable!



#9 tradesurfer

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 10:57 AM

I am starting to see a 30% plunge in the nasdaq into October... darn I wish I wasnt so over the top bearish.  Problem is my Birthday is in October and i get this '6th sense' in my DNA about crashes lol

 

someone please pour a bucket of cold water over my head !!  tongue.png


Edited by tradesurfer, 26 September 2019 - 11:01 AM.


#10 redfoliage2

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 11:12 AM

I am starting to see a 30% plunge in the nasdaq into October... darn I wish I wasnt so over the top bearish.  Problem is my Birthday is in October and i get this '6th sense' in my DNA about crashes lol

 

someone please pour a bucket of cold water over my head !!  tongue.png

here it comes the cold water:  I see only a 20% "correction" in October...............