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[andr99]

many  released from hospitals have  lasting mental and physical illnesses problems --memories, aches hurting etc

 

in march I tried to warn people in this forum when we were the first ones in europe hit so hardly, but everyone thought it was just a problem due to italy's old population. We saw here it was not just the old people involved, but also healthy young persons and even after recovering many kept having big big problems.....nothing has changed since then, apart a summer almost free covid interval due to warm temperatures that don' t favour the virus' diffusion. As temperatures got colder.....here we are again.  

Edited by andr99, 23 October 2020 - 01:09 PM.

[andr99]

images from the south which doesn' t want new locks down

 

https://www.liberoqu...to-skytg24.html

 

 

where the state doesn' t rule.....

Edited by andr99, 24 October 2020 - 02:11 AM.

[slupert]

 

Heard something a couple weeks ago about the youth unemployment rate in Italy being like 32%. OUCH!!!

 

150 years ago a bunch of idiots sat down at a table and thought  ''why don' t we unite the peninsula ?''. Being idiots they didn' t think that geography is not enough to make a country. How can you think to create a country from nothing ? How can you think to put together peoples with different roots and say to them ''now you are italians'' ? And thanks mostly to the French help they succeeded creating such '' a thing''. Nowadays we are still paying the price of that. The north has received taxes to pay to let central and southern regions live on its shoulders. In change it got every kind of mafia and corruption coming from rome and the south. 32% rate of unenployment is average......in southern italy it is a perennial 50%......the 50% who are employed in the south are mostly state employees and given that the seats of state employees in the north are also occupied for large part by southerners migrated here, tell me what italy is. How I would solve the problem....well I keep it for myself

 

 

being a state employee in ''iddaly'' as they call it in their ''stunning language'' is a dream come true.....you work only if you want and you are paid......obviously you need a ''political reccomendation to get there''. No merit, no skills........mafia.

 

Did I provide a clear picture ? And these, from rome southwards, pretend to be europe............no other part of europe looks like that 

 

Thanks, sounds like the future of the entire economy may be in jeopardy, with or without Covid.

[CLK]

Sweden didn't lock down, the death rate is lower there than the US or Italy,

it appears that the lock downs don't make the death rate any lower,

just destroy's the economy, lost jobs, companies out of business.

Edited by CLK, 24 October 2020 - 07:27 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

Latest CDC Study:

TWO activities were linked to a positive coronavirus test:

1.close contact with someone who also tested positive,

2. On-site eating and drinking options, such as bars and restaurants.

 

October 16, 2020

The CDC paper summarizes findings from a survey of 314 people. The total included a group of 154 symptomatic people who tested positive for the coronavirus in July and a control group of 160 symptomatic people who tested negative for the coronavirus in July.

Based on the results of the survey, the CDC report said two activities were linked to a positive coronavirus test: close contact with someone who also tested positive, and going to locations with on-site eating and drinking options, such as bars and restaurants.

Of the 160 survey participants who tested negative, 74.2% said they "always" wore a mask or face covering and 14.5% said they "often" did so.

Of the 154 survey participants who tested positive, 70.6% said they "always" wore a mask or face covering and 14.4% said they "often" did so.

 

Just a thought:

If wearing masks is so effective at stopping virus spread, why is everyone panicking about the oncoming flu season?

Logic says there will be less flu spread than ever before... if masks are really that effective at stopping virus spread.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 24 October 2020 - 10:34 AM.

[CLK]

There is no vaccine for the common cold coronavirus, the flu is not a coronavirus.

Developing an effective vaccine for a coronavirus hasn't been achieved yet in the last 100 years, maybe because people didn't die from the cold, or because of pharma lobbyists wanting to keep selling over the counter common cold treatments.

At some point, people usually stop getting colds anymore as they age, they are immune to them.

Edited by CLK, 24 October 2020 - 11:24 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

 

For Immediate Release: October 22, 2020

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the antiviral drug Veklury (remdesivir) for use in adult and pediatric patients 12 years of age and older and weighing at least 40 kilograms (about 88 pounds) for the treatment of COVID-19 requiring hospitalization.

The median time to recovery from COVID-19 was 10 days for the Veklury group compared to 15 days for the placebo group, a statistically significant difference. Overall, the odds of clinical improvement at Day 15 were also statistically significantly higher in the Veklury group when compared to the placebo group.

https://www.fda.gov/...atment-covid-19

 

 As I understand it,  Veklury  does not kill the virus but hinders it's ability to multiply.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 24 October 2020 - 02:11 PM.