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#31 K Wave

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 08:44 AM

 

 

Dear KWAVE, I hate to break it to you but you do not understand how vaccines work.

One of the best vaccines ever, the smallpox vaccine, it was so good, it has literally wiped out that dreaded disease from the whole world. Considering smallpox has a record of 30%+ mortality rate, that is an amazing accomplishment by smallpox vaccine.

 

But guess what, I was vaccinated for smallpox in kindergarten age and 3 years later I got exposed to a big load of that virus and I got infected! I had 103 fevers for over a week and my entire 9 year body was covered with pox. The best ever vaccine could not prevent infection. That is for the simple reason, vaccine does not build a shield of glass around your body. If you get exposed to virus load, nothing can stop it from invading the body.

 

The role of vaccine is to stock up the body with anti-bodies so if the virus invades, you have extra tools to fight it. That is the reason my body destroyed the small pox before it could kill me.

 

Israel has very high covid vaccination rates for seniors and vulnerable. But as I explained, they got infected when they got over-confident and began gathering in groups. The key number to watch is what percentage of vaccinated Israel's died versus the unvaccinated who got infected. 

You are the one who does not understand how real vaccines work if you think Anitbodies are the main mechanism for long term protection...SMH

 

T-Cells are where you get your long term protection. Antibodies are short term soldiers for acute infection that fade away when not needed.

 

Once these gene shots that are CLEARLY NOT "vaccines" fade, you are essentially without protection....whereas, with a natural infection your body brings in the whole army, and you generally get a robust and very long lasting immune response, against not just a very specific spike...which is the achilles heel of the mRna gene shots, the specficity...and additionally opens the door to such things as ADE. ADE is not a worry with natural immunity.

 

Here is a primer so you can educate yourself.

https://www.virology...-from-covid-19/

 

 

Again you are responding in irrelevant direction. I never said anything about T-cells.

That is a common trick used by liberals.

In case you missed my main point due to low ability of English comprehension, I will repeat...

 

VACCINES DO NOT CRFEATE A LAYER OF BULLET PROOF GLASS AROUND YOUR BODY.

THE VIRUS DOES NOT CHECK IF YOU ARE VACCINATED OR NOT.

YOU WILL INHALE THE VIRUS IF THERE IS LOAD FLOATING NEAR YOU.

 

The role of vaccine begins AFTER the covid virus has entered your respiratory system, starts replicating and 

starts destroying lung tissue. Only at that stage the body becomes aware of the virus and sends an army of white 

corpuscles and anti-bodies (and T-cells) and any other defense it has.

 

Therefore to be surprised at infections in Israel is only for the under-informed.

 

CHECK DEATH RATES of vaccinated versus UNVACCINATED if you wish an intelligent dialog..

 

https://www.flaglerh...19-information/

 

People dying in my local hospital are largely UNVACCINATED.

 

Sigh.....

 

Without development of a strong CD8 T-cell response, which you generally get with symptomatic natural infection, and there Zero evidence of that with the "vaccines", there is no possible way the "vaccines" are going to provide any kind of longer term immunity.

You essentially have to hope they can keep up with "chasing the variants" with a likely never ending array of boosters that are matched, as mismatched boosters could potentially cause more harm than good.

 

Again, we have not yet reached the point of complete failure of the first set of gene shots...That day is coming.....

 

I do realize that symptomatic infection is not an option for many, but counting on spike antibodies created in your body that likely wont match up in a few months is not an ideal situation either...and could "possibly" lead to more severe disease if you get a breakthrough case down the road.

 

I hope the experienced immunologists are wrong, and this does not turn into a disaster, but that is current path we are potentially headed down...


Edited by K Wave, 29 August 2021 - 08:45 AM.


#32 K Wave

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 08:58 AM

From Israel 8/16, they are front running pretty much everyone

 

https://www.sciencem...ot-defeat-delta

 

What is clear is that “breakthrough” cases are not the rare events the term implies. As of 15 August, 514 Israelis were hospitalized with severe or critical COVID-19, a 31% increase from just 4 days earlier. Of the 514, 59% were fully vaccinated.

 

Aran’s message for the United States and other wealthier nations considering boosters is stark: “Do not think that the boosters are the solution.”

 

Anyway, i hope the path forward somehow gets brighter...but the current evidence coming in is that the world is between a rock and hard place at this juncture...

Watching to see how long Israel's booster program is effective.....



#33 K Wave

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 11:49 AM

Aaaaaaannnddd there it is...

 

So much for 2 and done...just 3 short months ago..

 

Israeli reporter

https://twitter.com/...972367719411718

 

#Breaking: Israel no longer considers people who have received 2 Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines "vaccinated." \
As of September 1, only 3x vaccinated are considered immune.

 

 

Coming soon to a theatre near you!


Edited by K Wave, 29 August 2021 - 11:50 AM.


#34 12SPX

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 01:44 PM

Thanks K for all the info very insightful and helpful in learning about this stupid virus.  I had it last year and have no intention of getting the vaccine because I believe more in natural immunity.  Elderly and health compromised a different story....



#35 K Wave

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 02:08 PM



Thanks K for all the info very insightful and helpful in learning about this stupid virus.  I had it last year and have no intention of getting the vaccine because I believe more in natural immunity.  Elderly and health compromised a different story....

I have my Golden Ticket as well.

 

But they would never ever flat out lie about the boosters, right?

 

I sincerely hope the boosters work, but will not believe anything from the lying liars, until all the evidence is in....

 

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#36 bigtrader

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 02:53 PM

Thanks K for all the info very insightful and helpful in learning about this stupid virus.  I had it last year and have no intention of getting the vaccine because I believe more in natural immunity.  Elderly and health compromised a different story....

 

We're finding the virus isn't so stupid. I have 2 friends that bought the natural immunity story and both are in the hospital with their second go-round with a virus that appears smarter than many people.. Their thoughts have reversed.


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#37 K Wave

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 03:21 PM

Any underlying issues in those 2? Age, Obese, Heart, Diabetes?

 

There are always the odd cases, but I'll take the odds at 27X better than 2X Vaxxed.

 

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Posted 29 August 2021 - 03:58 PM

Yes I'm with you, CDC says 78% of the the deaths in America were of people that had "very high bmi's" or in other words obese.  Yes there are the odd cases but my 32 friends now that have had it have been fine!  One that is considered obese had the hardest time and it took 3 weeks to get over it and one who was healthy had a hard time also but he seems to always get sick.  Don't know anyone that died from it but 2 that died from the vaccine, one the very next day after reacting to it.  My odds indicate I'll take the chances....



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Posted 29 August 2021 - 06:44 PM

Yes I'm with you, CDC says 78% of the the deaths in America were of people that had "very high bmi's" or in other words obese.  Yes there are the odd cases but my 32 friends now that have had it have been fine!  One that is considered obese had the hardest time and it took 3 weeks to get over it and one who was healthy had a hard time also but he seems to always get sick.  Don't know anyone that died from it but 2 that died from the vaccine, one the very next day after reacting to it.  My odds indicate I'll take the chances....

 

Really? You know 2 people who died from the vaccine? Over 339 million doses of the vaccine had been given to 187.2 million people in the U.S. as of July, 2021. There have been only 3 deaths from those who took the J&J Vaccine after a rare blood-clotting problem arose that was likely linked to their deaths. Nearly 14 million people in the U.S. received the J&J vaccine.

 

The death rate attributed to NSAID/aspirin use was between 21.0 and 24.8 cases/million people. Up to one-third of these deaths are attributed to low-dose aspirin use. These vaccines are remarkably effective and safe!

 

Meanwhile, 20% of those hospitalized for Covid have had clots that are life-threatening. Even a mild infection may cause blood clots or microclotting. The risk is enormously higher that "natural infection" will cause life-threatening blood clotting. 

 

There are all sorts of videos and tweets citing alarming statistics of the dangers of vaccination. France's intelligence services are investigating Russia's efforts to sow public doubts about the safety of vaccines in America and elsewhere. Quackery is rampant. It sure is easy to scare people. 



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Posted 30 August 2021 - 08:30 AM

Believe they were Moderna actually.  Even if you took the second as a coincidence the first one was a neurological case that saw immediate reaction right after the shot.  Super rare I know but why my doctor says no for me because in my 20's I had a severe head injury so my right side is only about 80% strength.  This is why when I play tennis for overheads and out wide ad shots I'll switch to my left and hit a forehand once in awhile lol!!