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#11 claire

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Posted 11 October 2021 - 02:41 PM


 

"Bottom line: humans can't control nature...it will always find a way around such acts of folly."

 

Fib

 

Really? Have you ever taken an medication for anything or had medical procedures to intervene in ameliorating any health issues? All of these have side effects for some, but when needed, the reward typically far outweighs the risk.

How about vaccinations for a variety of diseases that once ravaged people. When they were mandated, there were none for which there wasn't outrage by those who insisted that they have the right to refuse, even when it risked the safety of others.

 

Every vaccine we have ever used has triggered the same outrage we are witnessing now about the Covid vaccines with fraudulent claims by so-called experts, misleading partial information taken out of a larger context, delusional thinking among some who believe that the leading countries of the world are trying to kill their citizens while aided and abetted by leading scientists, and fears among those lacking expertise that is easily stoked by any of these headlines that grab attention. Thanks to the internet, this is more easily achieved now.

 

Here are a few vaccinations that led to 98%-100% decreases in annual deaths despite the fallacious efforts to resist their implementation:  Smallpox, Diphtheria, Measles, Mumps, Pertussis, Paralytic Polio, Rubella, Congenital Rubella Syndrome, Tetanus, Haemophilus influenza Type B.

 

As far as I know, the only voice I heard promising that the virus would magically disappear was from Trump and by others who believed that the pandemic was a lie and no different than the flu.  Now, the number of deaths in America is >711,000.  Scientists who were seriously concerned were maligned. Leading scientists were always cautious in their predictions, never promising 100% efficacy after the development of the vaccines, and they addressed their concerns about variants that may elude it. Fortunately, the delta variant is effective for this variant. We have been protected by an enormous number of lives saved.


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#12 fib_1618

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Posted 11 October 2021 - 04:01 PM

 

 

"Bottom line: humans can't control nature...it will always find a way around such acts of folly."

 

Fib

 

Really? Have you ever taken an medication for anything or had medical procedures to intervene in ameliorating any health issues? All of these have side effects for some, but when needed, the reward typically far outweighs the risk.

How about vaccinations for a variety of diseases that once ravaged people. When they were mandated, there were none for which there wasn't outrage by those who insisted that they have the right to refuse, even when it risked the safety of others.

 

Every vaccine we have ever used has triggered the same outrage we are witnessing now about the Covid vaccines with fraudulent claims by so-called experts, misleading partial information taken out of a larger context, delusional thinking among some who believe that the leading countries of the world are trying to kill their citizens while aided and abetted by leading scientists, and fears among those lacking expertise that is easily stoked by any of these headlines that grab attention. Thanks to the internet, this is more easily achieved now.

 

Here are a few vaccinations that led to 98%-100% decreases in annual deaths despite the fallacious efforts to resist their implementation:  Smallpox, Diphtheria, Measles, Mumps, Pertussis, Paralytic Polio, Rubella, Congenital Rubella Syndrome, Tetanus, Haemophilus influenza Type B.

 

As far as I know, the only voice I heard promising that the virus would magically disappear was from Trump and by others who believed that the pandemic was a lie and no different than the flu.  Now, the number of deaths in America is >711,000.  Scientists who were seriously concerned were maligned. Leading scientists were always cautious in their predictions, never promising 100% efficacy after the development of the vaccines, and they addressed their concerns about variants that may elude it. Fortunately, the delta variant is effective for this variant. We have been protected by an enormous number of lives saved.

 

 

Claire...you really need to stand down here...you don't want to tangle with me on this....nor is this the place to do so.

 

Provide your passionate opinions as you may and I will continue to let others respond in kind...I wish to keep our years of an amicable relationship.

 

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#13 fib_1618

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Posted 11 October 2021 - 05:34 PM

And along the lines of dose dependent vascular issues, yet another country bans moderna..

https://www.zerohedg...flammation-risk

 

The FDA's unsurprising response on the Moderna bans: "the shot’s benefits outweigh the risks":  https://tinyurl.com/yhtgsg62

 

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#14 claire

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Posted 11 October 2021 - 06:01 PM

 

 

 

"Bottom line: humans can't control nature...it will always find a way around such acts of folly."

 

Fib

 

Really? Have you ever taken an medication for anything or had medical procedures to intervene in ameliorating any health issues? All of these have side effects for some, but when needed, the reward typically far outweighs the risk.

How about vaccinations for a variety of diseases that once ravaged people. When they were mandated, there were none for which there wasn't outrage by those who insisted that they have the right to refuse, even when it risked the safety of others.

 

Every vaccine we have ever used has triggered the same outrage we are witnessing now about the Covid vaccines with fraudulent claims by so-called experts, misleading partial information taken out of a larger context, delusional thinking among some who believe that the leading countries of the world are trying to kill their citizens while aided and abetted by leading scientists, and fears among those lacking expertise that is easily stoked by any of these headlines that grab attention. Thanks to the internet, this is more easily achieved now.

 

Here are a few vaccinations that led to 98%-100% decreases in annual deaths despite the fallacious efforts to resist their implementation:  Smallpox, Diphtheria, Measles, Mumps, Pertussis, Paralytic Polio, Rubella, Congenital Rubella Syndrome, Tetanus, Haemophilus influenza Type B.

 

As far as I know, the only voice I heard promising that the virus would magically disappear was from Trump and by others who believed that the pandemic was a lie and no different than the flu.  Now, the number of deaths in America is >711,000.  Scientists who were seriously concerned were maligned. Leading scientists were always cautious in their predictions, never promising 100% efficacy after the development of the vaccines, and they addressed their concerns about variants that may elude it. Fortunately, the delta variant is effective for this variant. We have been protected by an enormous number of lives saved.

 

 

Claire...you really need to stand down here...you don't want to tangle with me on this....nor is this the place to do so.

 

Provide your passionate opinions as you may and I will continue to let others respond in kind...I wish to keep our years of an amicable relationship.

 

Fib

 

 

 

I agree.  I don't want to tangle with you (or anyone else) about this issue and have fairly well restrained myself from responding to most posts here with which I disagree strongly, but I addressed your posts because I believe that your opinions are highly regarded by most people here for your acumen and data analytic skills in the stock market. This puts you in a strong position to influence others, so I find it especially hard to resist commenting about what I consider misleading information that is outside your area of expertise.

 

I've been impressed by the clarity of your reasoning when presenting opinions. You're quick to spot logical fallacies and seem not to allow irrelevant details to interfere with a broader perspective, which makes it stunning to me that you appear not to apply this facility when dealing with the issue of vaccinations. You're not one to ignore logical fallacies, and I think you wouldn't respect others who do. I, too, prefer to keep our relationship amicable and will step back (again). I wish we were on the same side for this issue, but that seems highly unlikely.



#15 bigtrader

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 07:20 AM

Thank you Claire, one voice of reason


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#16 fib_1618

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Posted 13 October 2021 - 07:05 AM

And as winter approaches, and people start moving inside their homes, we have this from Minnesota: https://tinyurl.com/ydnjswbk

 

Look for this to continue as we move deeper into the winter months.

 

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Posted 13 October 2021 - 10:27 AM

And as winter approaches, and people start moving inside their homes, we have this from Minnesota: https://tinyurl.com/ydnjswbk

 

Look for this to continue as we move deeper into the winter months.

 

Fib

Thanks fib,

 

Interesting the article fails to mention the vit D status of those hospitalized which has been known for well over a year to be correlated to severity of outcomes, par for the course to only mention the terrain in terms of jab / non-jab and hide what works.

 

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#18 K Wave

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Posted 13 October 2021 - 11:18 AM

And as winter approaches, and people start moving inside their homes, we have this from Minnesota: https://tinyurl.com/ydnjswbk

 

Look for this to continue as we move deeper into the winter months.

 

Fib

 

 

Fauci is already on record as saying this will be Dark Winter....

 

But not likely in the way a lot of folks expect.....my mother has been telling me that many of her fully GMOed over 75 friends are now starting to suffer from pretty severe illnesses....classified as Covid, but not with the usual symptoms in many cases...and we are still in October...

 

Again....absolutely Zero long term safety record on these things....and ADE-like illness can manifest in many different ways...not just the disease vaxxed against....

 

It is certainly possible that these things might turn out to be relatively safe over the long term, but injecting billions of people to "find out" is criminal....


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Posted 14 October 2021 - 08:32 AM

Somebody pretty smart behind this...

 

Turning medical issues into politics

 

Amazing how stupid people are, that they can allow their politics to influence them to embrace unproven and dangerous technology/

 

Somebody figured it out and that was the key to the massive distribution


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Posted 15 October 2021 - 12:26 AM

Somebody pretty smart behind this...

 

Turning medical issues into politics

 

Amazing how stupid people are, that they can allow their politics to influence them to embrace unproven and dangerous technology/

 

Somebody figured it out and that was the key to the massive distribution

Follow the money,  Gates in heading for becoming the wealthiest man to ever live from these 'vaccines'.  https://www.armstron...ll-gates-lying/


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