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#11 trioderob

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Posted 20 September 2022 - 12:29 PM

Obesity is highest in world
Lack of regular exercise
Fentanyl smuggled in large quantities

 

I agree

 

people are eating refined sugars at such a high level that it is killing them

there are folks in their mid twenties who are 50 -100 pounds overweight 

 

the average young women now is  five foot five and 170 pounds 



#12 Rogerdodger

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Posted 20 September 2022 - 04:07 PM

Roger Dodger knocks on wood:

 

NPR:

So you haven't caught COVID yet. Does that mean you're a superdodger?

The race is on to figure out why: "Are these people just lucky or did they really have a mutation in their genes that was protecting them from infection?'"

"We've heard countless anecdotes about nurses and health-care workers, being exposed without any protection and remaining negative over and over again,"

 

Having a particular mutation in the HLA gene increases a person's chance of being asymptomatic by almost 10 times.

HLA signals to the immune system that cells are invaded and need help. That signal triggers a cascade of events that ultimately leads your body to make potent weapons specifically designed to fight SARS-CoV-2. These weapons include antibodies and T cells that uniquely recognize pieces of this virus. Once these targeted weapons are available, your immune system has a much easier time clearing up the infection.

The HLA gene increases a person's chance of being asymptomatic by almost 10 times.

Some people have T cells that are already pre-programmed to recognize and fight off SARS-CoV-2. So there's no delay in generating COVID-specfic weaponry. It's already there.


Edited by Rogerdodger, 20 September 2022 - 04:08 PM.


#13 pdx5

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Posted 20 September 2022 - 07:30 PM

Roger Dodger knocks on wood:

 

NPR:

So you haven't caught COVID yet. Does that mean you're a superdodger?

The race is on to figure out why: "Are these people just lucky or did they really have a mutation in their genes that was protecting them from infection?'"

"We've heard countless anecdotes about nurses and health-care workers, being exposed without any protection and remaining negative over and over again,"

 

Having a particular mutation in the HLA gene increases a person's chance of being asymptomatic by almost 10 times.

HLA signals to the immune system that cells are invaded and need help. That signal triggers a cascade of events that ultimately leads your body to make potent weapons specifically designed to fight SARS-CoV-2. These weapons include antibodies and T cells that uniquely recognize pieces of this virus. Once these targeted weapons are available, your immune system has a much easier time clearing up the infection.

The HLA gene increases a person's chance of being asymptomatic by almost 10 times.

Some people have T cells that are already pre-programmed to recognize and fight off SARS-CoV-2. So there's no delay in generating COVID-specfic weaponry. It's already there.

 

I was born in India. My wife was born in USA of English-Irish parents. We have 2 daughters.  It is amazing if all of us were lucky to inherit that gene. More likely it was 4 jabs of vaccines and washing hands often and social distancing when possible is what may be responsible to protect from covid. On cruise ship we make a serious effort to not touch face with unwashed hands. I can't prove anything with anecdotes. But  it is what it is.


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Posted 20 September 2022 - 07:42 PM

Well, yes there are excess deaths...    Western Medicine and especially medicare has rules on procedures of care to save money...   My Mom was diagnosed in August with Stage 4 cancer which could have been caught 9 months earlier but Medicare procedures get in the way...   Here is how it works.   

 

Someone goes in for blood tests and if everything comes back normal they are considered well..   In many cases patients have head aches, other pain and issues, but if blood work does uncover any other problems they are good.    Now if blood work shows a imbalance in red cells or other indicators, then they might subscribe a transfusion.  If that doesn't hold a upper or lower GI...   Each time medicare usually wants 6 weeks between tests...   Medicare usually only after this and 6 months passing will they authorize something like a cat scan and by that time it is too late....     Due to the slowness a procedures of the Medical system is what average lifespans have fallen 2 years...



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Posted 20 September 2022 - 09:16 PM

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I'm so sorry. I personally know the frustration, watching my wife on life support because they wouldn't treat her for 2 weeks. She wound up near death and 7 days in ICU on Intubation machines.

Thankfully she survived and is slowly improving.

The ICU doctor was wonderful and care was great...but 2 weeks delayed.

Thankfully it was all just before Covid and it's many tragic stories.

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Edited by Rogerdodger, 20 September 2022 - 09:29 PM.


#16 pdx5

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Posted 20 September 2022 - 11:15 PM

Well, yes there are excess deaths...    Western Medicine and especially medicare has rules on procedures of care to save money...   My Mom was diagnosed in August with Stage 4 cancer which could have been caught 9 months earlier but Medicare procedures get in the way...   Here is how it works.   

 

Someone goes in for blood tests and if everything comes back normal they are considered well..   In many cases patients have head aches, other pain and issues, but if blood work does uncover any other problems they are good.    Now if blood work shows a imbalance in red cells or other indicators, then they might subscribe a transfusion.  If that doesn't hold a upper or lower GI...   Each time medicare usually wants 6 weeks between tests...   Medicare usually only after this and 6 months passing will they authorize something like a cat scan and by that time it is too late....     Due to the slowness a procedures of the Medical system is what average lifespans have fallen 2 years...

 

Look into switching to Medicare-Advantage. We have Humana and we are happy with it. 


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#17 12SPX

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Posted 21 September 2022 - 08:31 AM

 

Roger Dodger knocks on wood:

 

NPR:

So you haven't caught COVID yet. Does that mean you're a superdodger?

The race is on to figure out why: "Are these people just lucky or did they really have a mutation in their genes that was protecting them from infection?'"

"We've heard countless anecdotes about nurses and health-care workers, being exposed without any protection and remaining negative over and over again,"

 

Having a particular mutation in the HLA gene increases a person's chance of being asymptomatic by almost 10 times.

HLA signals to the immune system that cells are invaded and need help. That signal triggers a cascade of events that ultimately leads your body to make potent weapons specifically designed to fight SARS-CoV-2. These weapons include antibodies and T cells that uniquely recognize pieces of this virus. Once these targeted weapons are available, your immune system has a much easier time clearing up the infection.

The HLA gene increases a person's chance of being asymptomatic by almost 10 times.

Some people have T cells that are already pre-programmed to recognize and fight off SARS-CoV-2. So there's no delay in generating COVID-specfic weaponry. It's already there.

 

I was born in India. My wife was born in USA of English-Irish parents. We have 2 daughters.  It is amazing if all of us were lucky to inherit that gene. More likely it was 4 jabs of vaccines and washing hands often and social distancing when possible is what may be responsible to protect from covid. On cruise ship we make a serious effort to not touch face with unwashed hands. I can't prove anything with anecdotes. But  it is what it is.

 

It's sure not the 4 jabs that has stopped it.  Out of about 50 friends we have in many different groups all vaxxed, they have all had it ranging with a few with little symptoms to 3/4 of them getting pretty sick.  The only ones we know that haven't gotten sick since originally getting it almost two years ago are the 5 of us who are unvaxxed.  We got tested 1.5 years later and still had antibodies.  There are only two friends we know that haven't got it and both are vaxxed so along with you I think they have that gene Roger is talking about!!



#18 pdx5

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Posted 21 September 2022 - 09:44 AM

12spx, I agree completely vaccines are NOT designed or capable of stopping infections. Because no way to stop inhaling virus load into lungs simple because you are vaccinated. The virus replicates much faster than the body's ability to recognizie the invasion and respond to it. Heck I had the most successful vaccine ever (smallpox) but got infected with symptoms 2 years later. The vaccine saved from death with that 30+% mortality virus.

 

The only function of ANY vaccine is to give body additional anti-bodies to fight virus AFTER it invades and infects.

Hospital statistics bear this out. Unvaxxed end up in ICU in larger percentages than vaxxed.

Many times the anti-bodies kill the virus before any symptoms appear. That gives false impression that vaccine stopped infection.


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Posted 23 September 2022 - 03:36 AM

Obesity is highest in world
Lack of regular exercise
Fentanyl smuggled in large quantities

Of course and also include sedintary life style duringpandemic, it talks about the heat wave in the article etc.