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#11 SilentOne

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 06:44 AM

I am your friend and I solved that a long time ago. B) Join me as a POSITION TRADER. :D


hi mss,

I'm in here too. The only reason I am is I think oil will pull NG higher. I am sticking to the commodity ETFs like USL, USO and UNG primarily. GL.

cheers,

john
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#12 uncleharley

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 08:21 AM

I am your friend and I solved that a long time ago. B) Join me as a POSITION TRADER. :D


hi mss,

I'm in here too. The only reason I am is I think oil will pull NG higher. I am sticking to the commodity ETFs like USL, USO and UNG primarily. GL.

cheers,

john


Wouldn't oil be more supportive when it gets back down to $40.00 or so?
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$WTI...&a=53480314
:)
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#13 SilentOne

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 08:41 AM

Wouldn't oil be more supportive when it gets back down to $40.00 or so?
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$WTI...&a=53480314
:)
uh


hi uh,

My reasoning is that the oil/ng ratio should not get much above 14, and actually trade in a range of 10 - 14. So IF crude goes to $70, then ng should go to at least $5 - 6.

cheers,

john
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#14 Mike

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 09:28 AM

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I am your friend and I solved that a long time ago. B) Join me as a POSITION TRADER. :D

mss
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Hmmm, position trader? Like in...oh, never mind. :dunce:

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#15 Mike

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:39 AM

Any seats left in the position traders lounge? I may have to join you. :flowers:

http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$NATGAS&p=W&st=1994-05-01&i=p82607364126&a=156126985&r=880.png

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:50 AM

:)
We left you the lounge chair, but no TV B)

First positive close and I might go 200% ----it's alive, it's alive --- maybe.

http://stockcharts.c...8841&r=2082.png

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#17 uncleharley

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 12:01 PM

Wouldn't oil be more supportive when it gets back down to $40.00 or so?
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$WTI...&a=53480314
:)
uh


hi uh,

My reasoning is that the oil/ng ratio should not get much above 14, and actually trade in a range of 10 - 14. So IF crude goes to $70, then ng should go to at least $5 - 6.

cheers,

john


Your ratio is probably right on, but obviously the ratio could close by oil dropping in price. My thought was that since the price of oil seems to be consolidating in the 40 to 50 dollar range, it's next move will probably be back down to $40 or so. Then I could see it going back up again, perhaps bringing gas with it. Of course this is a short term call, for the longer term both oil and gas should go up, I just think the timing for a buy might be better at a later date.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 12:03 PM

Any seats left in the position traders lounge? I may have to join you. :flowers:

http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$NATGAS&p=W&st=1994-05-01&i=p82607364126&a=156126985&r=880.png



Plenty of seats amigo as everyone hate this. Your chart explains why Senor has been in slow accumulation mode the last several days.

BSing away

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#19 SilentOne

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 12:07 PM

hi uh,

Your ratio is probably right on, but obviously the ratio could close by oil dropping in price. My thought was that since the price of oil seems to be consolidating in the 40 to 50 dollar range, it's next move will probably be back down to $40 or so. Then I could see it going back up again, perhaps bringing gas with it. Of course this is a short term call, for the longer term both oil and gas should go up, I just think the timing for a buy might be better at a later date.


Actually I like oil better here. I am pretty certain what it is up to. Now if oil does rally here as I expect, will NG go along for the ride, because thus far it hasn't.

cheers,

john
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#20 Mike

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 01:00 PM

The outstanding problem is the possibility of a 25% decline to the $3 level. Check out what happened in 2001 when it made a final multi-week plunge to what's now the trendline, and note how that move didn't even register on the macd or stochastic; a nice positive divergence, but quite a cost. For those position traders here, what will be your position if we begun that final decline? Will you hold through a loss of 25%? -MK