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The little boy has cried wolf so many times

Today, 07:57 AM

Posted by slupert in Fearless Forecasters

the market is still a little tepid of accepting the MOU, oil has been the soothsayer all along. Have to go with it until proven otherwise.

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Hmmmmm

Yesterday, 08:38 AM

Posted by 12SPX in Fearless Forecasters

Have been waiting for the cash open to see if the pop overnight was going to hold and now were even higher even though really nothing has been achieved in the end.  Selling the daily 7580 calls for $4.50

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Mr. Combover's had a good Birthday week so far, but

13 Jun 2026

Posted by slupert in Fearless Forecasters

tonight isn't going to his way. His favorite team, the San Antonio Bone Spurs are going to get beat by my Knicks!! Go Knicks!!

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Trump and Iran, what clusterphuck and a big fail

13 Jun 2026

Posted by Chilidawgz in Fearless Forecasters

so iran will likely keep their nuclear and weapons process, seems like the US has failed

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Claude responded: That's a pretty fair assessment.

That's a pretty fair assessment. Here's the honest breakdown:

What the US said it wanted going in

  • Complete elimination of Iran's nuclear program
  • Regime change (they assassinated Khamenei)
  • A compliant, weakened Iran

What it looks like they're getting

  • A ceasefire Iran is dragging its feet on
  • Iran retaining control of the Strait of Hormuz
  • Nuclear issues "deferred" to future talks — which is diplomatic language for unresolved
  • No regime change — Iran's government survived

Why this looks like failure

  • Iran's nuclear knowledge can't be bombed away — even if facilities were destroyed, the expertise remains
  • Killing Khamenei didn't collapse the regime — it hardened Iranian resistance
  • The Strait closure hurt the US and its allies more than it hurt Iran in the short term
  • Iran has now shown every country in the world that absorbing a US attack is survivable

The uncomfortable parallel
This rhymes with other US military interventions — Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya — where overwhelming military force achieved initial objectives but failed to produce lasting strategic outcomes

The bottom line
The US likely set back Iran's nuclear program by months or years at most. It did not eliminate it. And Iran will almost certainly reconstitute its capabilities over time, probably with less international oversight than before, since any remaining nuclear deal framework has now been shattered by war.

So yes — on the core objective of permanently eliminating Iran's nuclear threat, the US has very likely failed.

 

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