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what's wrong with the new covid cases curve in USA ?


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#1 andr99

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Posted 27 June 2020 - 05:47 PM

it seems it has changed curvature

 

https://it.tradingvi...9-CONFIRMED_US/

 

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

 

more tests ? 


Edited by andr99, 27 June 2020 - 05:51 PM.

forever and only a V-E-N-E-T-K-E-N.....though partly langbardic


#2 pdx5

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Posted 27 June 2020 - 08:13 PM

Young people congregating in large groups without social distancing in 3% of counties in United States.

That was simply fool hardy. Of course more tests are partly responsible. Something like 26 Million tests done.

That is many times more than other countries. 


Edited by pdx5, 27 June 2020 - 08:14 PM.

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#3 claire

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Posted 27 June 2020 - 10:41 PM

Young people congregating in large groups without social distancing in 3% of counties in United States.

That was simply fool hardy. Of course more tests are partly responsible. Something like 26 Million tests done.

That is many times more than other countries. 

 

How many tests PER CAPITA have we done compared to other nations?

 

https://www.statista...ries-worldwide/



#4 salam

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Posted 28 June 2020 - 06:58 AM

 

Young people congregating in large groups without social distancing in 3% of counties in United States.

That was simply fool hardy. Of course more tests are partly responsible. Something like 26 Million tests done.

That is many times more than other countries. 

 

How many tests PER CAPITA have we done compared to other nations?

 

https://www.statista...ries-worldwide/

 

 

some people STILL believe everything Trump says as the truth.

US per capita testing is woeful. The US curve is not flattening, it’s rising again. 
4% of worlds population but over 20% of global recorded mortality.

woeful.
 

with all the wealth and technology, UK, USA and (Brazil’s) response to Covid are total sh*tshows. 
 

the result of political egos’Trumping’ science and medicine.

 

 


Edited by salam, 28 June 2020 - 07:00 AM.

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#5 Bernie

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Posted 28 June 2020 - 08:37 AM

National Inflation Assoc.:

So far in 2020: CNN.com has published 38,000 news articles containing the word "Coronavirus" and 40,000 news articles containing the term "COVID-19", MSNBC.com has published 4,700 news articles containing the word "Coronavirus" and 2,630 news articles containing the term "COVID-19", and FOXNews.com has published 38,200 news articles containing the word "Coronavirus" and 13,800 news articles containing the term "COVID-19".

Unfortunately, not once has CNN, MSNBC, or FOXNews published a single article containing the term "cycle threshold". The media is lying to the public about COVID-19 by making it seem as though the PCR "swab" testing used today has the ability to determine... yes you have COVID-19 or no you don't. The #1 question that the mainstream media should be asking today is... "Who determined that a cycle threshold of 40 should be used to determine whether or not you have COVID-19?"

A cycle threshold of 40 means that a person tests positive for COVID-19 if there is a match for one of the genetic sequences associated with SARS-CoV-2 in less than 40 cycles of amplification. After 39 cycles of amplification, there are 550 BILLION copies of the DNA being tested. If the PCR test doesn't find a match until 39 cycles, it means that the test is only finding trace amounts of one of the genetic sequences associated with SARS-Cov-2 and the person being tested has a 0% chance of getting sick or infecting another person, but based on today's CDC standards that person will count as a new positive case of COVID-19!

The truth is... it was already proven last month that a patient with a cycle threshold value of 35 or higher has a 0% chance of being contagious. Patients with a cycle threshold value of 33 or 34 also have an extremely low chance of being contagious.

We know somebody who works in one of the largest U.S. diagnostic labs and in recent weeks over 90% of all "positive" PCR tests for COVID-19 have had a cycle threshold value of 33 or higher. The fear-mongering media refuses to report this fact. They refuse to even explain the meaning of a cycle threshold value.

If today's media journalists wanted to earn their paycheck, they should do a report on what cycle threshold value is used to determine a positive COVID-19 test in every foreign country. Most foreign countries appear to be using cycle threshold values of between 25 and 35 to determine if a person is positive for COVID-19, which explains why they have lower amounts of COVID-19 cases.



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Posted 28 June 2020 - 09:54 AM

 

Young people congregating in large groups without social distancing in 3% of counties in United States.

That was simply fool hardy. Of course more tests are partly responsible. Something like 26 Million tests done.

That is many times more than other countries. 

 

How many tests PER CAPITA have we done compared to other nations?

 

https://www.statista...ries-worldwide/

 

It is much easier to do 1/4 million tests in a small country than 26 million in any country.

But you may have difficulty understanding that concept.

 

More intelligent comparison would be between USA and China, Brazil, India, Indonesia etc.

Those countries have large populations comparable to USA.

But I have no right to expect intelligence from all posters.


Edited by pdx5, 28 June 2020 - 10:03 AM.

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#7 salam

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Posted 28 June 2020 - 09:58 AM

it seems it has changed curvature

 

https://it.tradingvi...9-CONFIRMED_US/

 

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

 

more tests ? 

Whenever comparative data is 

presented, those that resent the data usually are in 3 camps;

 

1. the data is wrong.

2. the data inconsistent/old/biased.

3. We are a special case.
 

So my question is this.... why are infection curves flattened in some countries And in NZ....infection is practically eradicated, yet why do nations like the US UK and Brazil have failed to flatten their curves?
 

must be special cases? 
 

or is it the Ego and ideology of the leaders of those nations that believe herd immunity and culling the herd and letting a pandemic ‘wash over their nation’ the best and ‘final solution’? 
 


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#8 salam

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Posted 28 June 2020 - 10:03 AM

 

 

Young people congregating in large groups without social distancing in 3% of counties in United States.

That was simply fool hardy. Of course more tests are partly responsible. Something like 26 Million tests done.

That is many times more than other countries. 

 

How many tests PER CAPITA have we done compared to other nations?

 

https://www.statista...ries-worldwide/

 

It is much easier to do 1/4 million tests in a small country than 26 million in any country.

But you will have difficulty understanding that concept.

 

More intelligent comparison would be between USA and China, Brazil, India, Indonesia etc.

But I have no right to expect intelligence from all posters.

 

Because you are an epidemiologist, have superior medical and virological and statistical knowledge than most of us mere mortals.

 

per capita testing should be high in the early stages of a pandemic, track trace and contain, so negating the need for high volume testing later.

 

US is doing more testing now, because all the horses have bolted from the stables and are infecting the herd.

 

but I forget.... we are dumb and you are wise and despair with our lack of intelligence 


Edited by salam, 28 June 2020 - 10:04 AM.

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#9 pdx5

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Posted 28 June 2020 - 10:18 AM

 

Because you are an epidemiologist, have superior medical and virological and statistical knowledge than most of us mere mortals.

 

per capita testing should be high in the early stages of a pandemic, track trace and contain, so negating the need for high volume testing later.

 

US is doing more testing now, because all the horses have bolted from the stables and are infecting the herd.

 

but I forget.... we are dumb and you are wise and despair with our lack of intelligence 

 

If I was dumb why am I worth millions starting with $25 in my pocket when I arrived in this great country?

If I am dumb, why I am in perfect health at age 80, and do not even need to see doctors?

And most important no dumb person can ever break his age on 18 holes, which I have done multiple times.


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#10 pdx5

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Posted 28 June 2020 - 10:28 AM

Speaking of CDC, here is what they think now....

 

https://outkick.com/...onavirus-cases/


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