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#1 OEXCHAOS

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Posted 31 December 2021 - 07:39 AM

It sure looks like the vaccines' benefits have been grossly exaggerated.
 
"It compares the outcomes of the roughly 18,000 vaccinated and infected people seem at the medical centers with a much larger group of Covid patients - about 2.5 million people - who were not vaccinated and visited the same centers at any point during the epidemic.
About 84 percent of the vaccinated patients were seen as outpatients, while 16 percent required hospitalization.
In comparison, about 77 percent of unvaccinated patients were seen as outpatients, while 23 percent were hospitalized.
Almost 1 percent of the vaccinated patients had serious outcomes, including death, compared to just over 2 percent of the unvaccinated patients."

https://alexberenson...ospitalizations

 

The actual study is here (see Table 4). Note that this data is pre-Omicron.

https://jamanetwork....article/2787643


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#2 fib_1618

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Posted 31 December 2021 - 10:07 AM

Maybe Comrade (or is that "Herr") Fauci and these so called "health leaders" should take note?

 

It's always been an experimental "shot" and not a vaccine...this asinine stupidity needs to stop.

 

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Edited by fib_1618, 31 December 2021 - 10:07 AM.

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Posted 31 December 2021 - 10:15 AM

Totally agree, my biggest beef is the government keeps saying its safe when they don't know anything about long term effects!  Especially when they do commercials targeting children, makes me sick!!  By the way want to thank Mark for allowing all the covid talk on here as it is a nice release and very informative for both sides.  I've always been on the side if you wanna get the shot go ahead but respect my choice not to get it also.  Doesn't matter anyhow as I already had it along with 4 friends and 11 mths later still had antibodies!! 



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Posted 31 December 2021 - 10:39 AM

If you believe that Pfizer submitted legitimate, honest data for their EUA to the FDA, you really need to see this: https://t.co/ZHbAUKX76U

 

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Posted 31 December 2021 - 10:45 AM

Totally agree, my biggest beef is the government keeps saying its safe when they don't know anything about long term effects!  Especially when they do commercials targeting children, makes me sick!!  By the way want to thank Mark for allowing all the covid talk on here as it is a nice release and very informative for both sides.  I've always been on the side if you wanna get the shot go ahead but respect my choice not to get it also.  Doesn't matter anyhow as I already had it along with 4 friends and 11 mths later still had antibodies!! 

Yep. I will second that. Was thinking about this very fact over the last couple of days. Big tech certainly won't let you raise valid objections on their sites since they are now the arbiters of truth and, of course, truth has to agree with what THEY believe. So yes, a great big thanks to Mark for allowing the discussion.



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Posted 31 December 2021 - 12:28 PM

Just 'whiff of infected breath' all it takes...

CDC tells even jabbed to avoid cruises...

 

  • The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention increased its travel warning for cruise ships to the highest level.
  • The CDC warned that the risk of catching Covid on cruise ships is very high regardless of vaccination status.
  • The agency is currently investigating or observing dozens of cruise ships that have had Covid outbreaks.
  • Cruise ships operating in U.S. waters reported about 5,000 Covid cases to the CDC between Dec. 15 - 29.
CDC cruise travel warning raised to 'level 4' amid COVID ...

Edited by Rogerdodger, 31 December 2021 - 01:03 PM.


#7 hhh

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Posted 31 December 2021 - 12:31 PM

How can they continue with jab mandates to "stop the spread" while they admit they do no such thing? We are truly living in an Orwellian (or worse) world.



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Posted 31 December 2021 - 12:37 PM

Patients requiring ventilation?:

"And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it;

and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them." Rev 9:6

 

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               Vaxxed vs UnVaxxed

                          (I just noticed the QR code on the forehead! LOL!)

 


Edited by Rogerdodger, 31 December 2021 - 04:18 PM.


#9 fib_1618

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Posted 31 December 2021 - 03:35 PM

How can they continue with jab mandates to "stop the spread" while they admit they do no such thing?

 

Like everything else in the world of politics, just follow the money....it's always about power and dominance over the masses.

 

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#10 fib_1618

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Posted 31 December 2021 - 05:55 PM

If you believe that Pfizer submitted legitimate, honest data for their EUA to the FDA, you really need to see this: https://t.co/ZHbAUKX76U

 

https://pbs.twimg.co...=jpg&name=small


More on Pfizer: https://tinyurl.com/5e995zta

 

Still waiting for people to wake up…especially from those who invested heavily into this experimentation..

 

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