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[hhh]

I'll see your NASA, and raise you one more: 

 

https://www.nasa.gov...to-stratosphere

 

"The huge amount of water vapor hurled into the atmosphere, as detected by NASA’s Microwave Limb Sounder, could end up temporarily warming Earth’s surface.

 

When the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai volcano erupted on Jan. 15, it sent a tsunami racing around the world and set off a sonic boom that circled the globe twice. The underwater eruption in the South Pacific Ocean also blasted an enormous plume of water vapor into Earth’s stratosphere – enough to fill more than 58,000 Olympic-size swimming pools. The sheer amount of water vapor could be enough to temporarily affect Earth’s global average temperature."

Edited by hhh, 28 July 2023 - 09:35 AM.

[hhh]

Apparently, later analysis has shown that NASA underestimated the amount of water by a factor of about three:

 

https://www.nature.c...247-022-00652-x

[hhh]

But wait there's more:

 

Tonga Eruption May Temporarily Push Earth Closer to 1.5°C of Warming

 

https://eos.org/arti...1-5c-of-warming

 

I'm so glad the honest global media and government paid scientists are informing us of this event which swamps anything man has done EVER.

Edited by hhh, 28 July 2023 - 09:43 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

I'm thinking the record heat in 1936 was better than EXTREME COLD... WHICH KILLS TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE

 

"The CDC's National Center for Health Statistics Compressed Mortality Database, which is based on death certificates, indicates:

—about twice as many people die of “excessive cold” conditions in a given year than of “excessive heat.”

536 AD: the never-ending winter of the worst year in history

 

Missoula floods
During the last deglaciation that followed the end of the Last Glacial Maximum, geologists estimate that a cycle of flooding and reformation of the lake lasted an average of 55 years and that the floods occurred several times over the 2,000-year period between 15,000 and 13,000 years ago.

 

This movie shows a physics-based computer simulation of the Great Flood from Glacial Lake Missoula about 15,000 years ago. At the time, an ice dam blocked the Clark Fork River near the Idaho-Montana border and backed up a lake about equal in volume to Lake Huron. When the ice dam broke a cataclysmic flood scoured much of central Washington State leaving a vast region covered with erosional remnants.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 28 July 2023 - 02:29 PM.

[Rich C]

NASA: Never A Straight Answer. The discussion is too simplistic. It's not just total energy that influences weather on Earth. It's cosmic ray interaction and nucleation of water vapour resulting in varying cloud formation and corresponding weather. If NASA doesn't even know what the SI unit of energy is, do you trust them with an arm-waving simplistic argument to support the one-world communist takeover via climate bull$hit?

 

Where is your peer reviewed study on the long term effect of sunspots on climate change, or the effect of clouds?

 

I have already posted a NASA study debunking the sunspot theory, which you irresponsibly dismiss without posting any counter argument. 

 

I can say the sky is yellow, but that does not make it true.

[Rich C]

What do you think the impact of CO2 has been over the last 250 years?  Population has grown so there are more people to cook, cool and keep warm in the winter.  Steam power became a major source of energy in the 19th century, but you have to burn wood or coal to produce it at that time.  Thomas Edison invented the incandescent light and we electrified all the cities of the world, mainly burning coal to generate the electricity to do it.  Then came the car, and trucks, and we burn gasoline made from oil and that emits CO2.  Does all that CO2 which goes into the atmosphere have an effect, or no?

[hhh]

 Does all that CO2 which goes into the atmosphere have an effect, or no?

No, other than a beneficial increase in plant growth that otherwise wouldn't have occurred which would quite likely cool the Earth slightly. The Earth has had far more CO2 than 1000 ppm even and it supported animal life just fine. Water vapour absolutely swamps the effect of CO2 with respect to weather. It's a complete hoax designed to make you beg for communism and it's working.

[Rogerdodger]

 

Water vapour absolutely swamps the effect of CO2

 

We need more CO2 for the few trees that are left left!

Johnson CO2 Generator $1,608.69

 

Edited by Rogerdodger, 28 July 2023 - 10:37 PM.

[andr99]

Rich C is right........

 

1) Can CO2 have an impact on climate ? Yes, it can. That can be experimentally proved

 

2) Human population raises to a level never seen before, thus increasing the global CO2

 

3) De-forestation is underway in the last green areas of the world, thus decreasing the CO2 process of transformation of it into the air we breathe

 

So putting together those three points it seems logical that the climate might be affected by the increased CO2 emissions on the Earth.

[andr99]

it's a matter of quantity.........how much.......that is the key........little CO2 hjas little impact, a lot of CO2 has more impact