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#11 brucekeller

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 05:12 AM

Oh forgot to mention, Bill Gates had one of the quickest investment payoffs ever from his $55 mil into BioNTech in September 2019.  Wonder how they got approved first and shut out most of the competition??



#12 pdx5

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 06:18 AM

How can any Vaccine prevent infection? Does the vaccine create some kind of shield around the body so you will not inhale virus material floating near you? Of course not. If you are breathing and some person nearby is exhaling covid virus, you will inhale the virus and it will lodge into your respiratory system. The virus does not care if you  are vaccinated or not. It starts replicating! The virus does not send a text message to the body saying hey I am here, can I come in? The virus simply enters uninvited!

 

The role of vaccine begins AFTER you are infected. With some luck and depending on your immune capabilities, the vaccine will have stocked the body with anti-bodies. The body becomes aware of the virus invasion AFTER it starts replicating and destroying tissue. Nothing happens INSTANTLY in the body. If you eat a full meal, the brain does not know it for several minutes until the blood from stomach region reaches brain. That is why people overeat. They do not feel full for several minutes after eating. The body sends the anti-bodies and white corpuscles etc to the infected site after blood from infected site has reached the brain in sufficient quantities to recognize the invasion. In the meanwhile, before the virus is killed off, you will test positive for covid, and will be exhaling virus material to infect others.

 

Therefor just because you are vaccinated does not mean you can expose yourself with abandon. Until covid disappears as a pandemic, restraint is still required including social distancing. 

 

One of the most effective vaccine is the smallpox vaccine. It has helped eradicate smallpox (30%+ mortality rate) from earth. I was vaccinated at kindergarten age. Couple of years later, traveling in a overcrowded train journey of 8 hours, I picked up a load of smallpox virus. My mother tells me I had 103 F fevers and pox covering my 8 year old body. But the vaccine had created anti-bodies and I was able to kill the virus and survive. Vaccine did not prevent infection. It prevented death. 


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#13 LMF

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 09:11 AM

The government involvement with Pfizer Moderna and JnJ ends up being way too much like launching space shuttle crews that never returned safely to the earth. The first boner with the Challenger wasnt enough so they managed to redo it again with the Columbia. And then they declared the whole thing too unsafe to operate anymore. Its the government that has the extensive experience in these matters. Here and there theyve already used bribes to get people to take the vaccine shot, which completely exposes the absolute lunacy of it all. My bribe level just happens to be a little more involved than normal, since I already appreciate the Fed money printing so much. The base price in my bank account is now at $10 billion dollars. If some government fool can make that happen, Im ready to go on the vaccine. My grandkids are gonna need that comfy lifestyle with this economy. Put up or shut up is my theory. Got no chance running your mouth about anything.

#14 Rogerdodger

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 10:37 AM

I am a vaxed, mask wearer but agnostic on this whole thing because the "DOGMATIC FACTS" seem to change every time Fauci blinks.

 

I know people who text, drink, and drive all without a seat belt...but are mask nazis.

 

We are such an interesting species.


Edited by Rogerdodger, 05 September 2021 - 10:39 AM.


#15 Rogerdodger

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 11:36 AM

PS: for all of you engineers out there:

 

I'm thinking of putting one of these portable air pumps into a HEPA filter and putting that into a hat with an air hose inserted into my mask.

For extra protection, it could be soaked in Bourbon.

 

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#16 Rogerdodger

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 12:36 PM

Whatever happened to "Herd Immunity"?

 

Blood donations show 83% of Americans have coronavirus antibodies!

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Fri, September 3, 2021, 4:47 PM

More than 80% of Americans have coronavirus antibodies acquired through infection or vaccination, according to a new study of over 1.4 million blood donations across the U.S.

The study, published Thursday in the journal JAMA, included blood samples of Americans 16 and older collected by 17 different organizations from all 50 states, Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico. Donations represent 74% of the U.S. population, researchers said.

Estimates show that from July to December 2020 — before vaccines were available — the percentage of Americans 16 years or older with coronavirus antibodies from infection jumped from 3.5% to 11.5%. By May 2021, the percentage of Americans with infection-derived antibodies increased to about 20%.

But when researchers combined the number of people with antibodies from either infection or vaccination, they found about 83% of Americans had earned them.

 

 

Herd immunity can be reached when enough people in the population have recovered from a disease and have developed protective antibodies against future infection.

However, there are some major problems with relying on community infection to create herd immunity to the virus that causes COVID-19

Edited by Rogerdodger, 05 September 2021 - 12:41 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2021 - 12:39 PM

Welp, the vaccine deal is like the F'eds... 

 

They crafted a program in 2011 called Q.E.

 

So far it hasn't worked, money just dies faster the more you print.

 

Look at the progression of the last year, as they piled on $Trillions in "stimulus".

 

So whatever doesn't work, they just think they haven't done enough...

 

I guess a year from now we'll be talking about the 6th or 7th round of shots at this rate we're going.

 

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#18 pdx5

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 03:48 PM

Welp, the vaccine deal is like the F'eds... 

 

They crafted a program in 2011 called Q.E.

 

So far it hasn't worked, money just dies faster the more you print.

 

Look at the progression of the last year, as they piled on $Trillions in "stimulus".

 

So whatever doesn't work, they just think they haven't done enough...

 

I guess a year from now we'll be talking about the 6th or 7th round of shots at this rate we're going.

 

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I always thought that as well. Excess Money is not a tree producing corn. Unless there is demand to borrow that money to develop a productive business, the money just sits idle, gathering near zero interest rate. A better stimulus than just printing money is to create conditions which encourage  formation of productive businesses. 


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#19 Rogerdodger

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 04:54 PM

How about this: create conditions which encourage "paid to not work unemployed" to go to work!!!

 

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 06:08 PM

Covid safety nets ending, affecting millions...

'Unemployment' cash stops tomorrow...